Downloading music free from the internet: Is it wrong?

[Bonzo77]

You would be paying royalties, so a bad analogy, as i specifically said the artist does not have sample clearance.

 

The point you are trying to make doesn't make sense. If an artist steals someone's work they are surely breaking copyright laws in the first place!?

[truman]

The point you are trying to make doesn't make sense. If an artist steals someone's work they are surely breaking copyright laws in the first place!?

 

I think what he's asking is is it OK to steal something from someone who stole it in the first place?

[Location114]

I am surprised this thread has got over 50 posts as its so simple to answer.

 

1) Piracy is stealing

2) Stealing is a criminal offence

3) It is against the law!

 

Leading to a conclusion that piracy is stealing and that is NOT ok whichever way you look at it.

 

There is NO justification possible in which to commit a criminal offence.

[Ian Dome]

The point you are trying to make doesn't make sense. If an artist steals someone's work they are surely breaking copyright laws in the first place!?

 

It makes perfect sense. take another look.

[Bonzo77]

It makes perfect sense. take another look.

 

You mean sharing a file, rather than taking directly from an artist?

[Ian Dome]

No..

 

lets say i release a dance record on my own white label, featuring Beatles samples that i haven't been able/bothered to clear. I could easily supply record stores on an SoR basis (have done it a few times myself) - are they breaking the law (almost like handling 'stolen' goods), and is it still wrong for someone to download it for free?

[splodgeyAl]

Both Chumbawamba and The KLF fell foul of that exact situation. The offending records (they were mostly vinyl back then) were destroyed, I don't know what other punishment was meted out.

 

Chumba continued to sell their album at their gigs. I know this cos that's how I got a copy. Don't know about the KLF album.

[fruitisbad]

Both Chumbawamba and The KLF fell foul of that exact situation. The offending records (they were mostly vinyl back then) were destroyed, I don't know what other punishment was meted out.

 

Chumba continued to sell their album at their gigs. I know this cos that's how I got a copy. Don't know about the KLF album.

 

I'm pretty sure the law has changed recently to allow the royalty free use of samples so long as you have changed the song significantly

[splodgeyAl]

I'm pretty sure the law has changed recently to allow the royalty free use of samples so long as you have changed the song significantly

Yeah, I'm talking about the late 80's, I'd guess

 

No idea what the young whippersnappers get up to in this day and age

[Forumosaurus]

Another absolutely ridiculous post attempting to justify stealing.

 

Well done. You must be very proud.

 

But is it stealing if you can make a copy of something without causing loss.

 

I have a sausage sandwhich in the kitchen I made, if you could clone it without taking mine then hey, go ahead.

 

And if I decide to stop making sausage sandwiches because you copied it, well, there'll always be a thousand other people making sausage sandwiches you could choose from.

 

My point is nobody is going to stop making sausage sandwiches.

 

If I steal from you, that would suggest you had something which I took and you no longer have it. That's not what happens when you copy a record.