Cyclone Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Well said Zamo and good to see ya back, when people are deprived of not being allowed to say what they want it only breeds more resentment and hatred towards towards said group, religion, culture, race etc.... Simple folk need to speak their minds about things without the branded liberal elite interfering with their PC nonsense. I think you've got confused GW, Zamo was saying that the 'liberal elite' whoever they are, want to allow him his free speech, whilst the presumably illiberal ordinary don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamrocker Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 You don't even know what a statement is. "They should do this" - that's a statement "Why should they?" - that's a question You don't have to accept a question, you have to answer it to justify your statement. Can you? They have no obligation, neither legal nor moral to take responsibility for the behaviour of adults. In fact in US law they are specifically exempt as a media carrier from being required to do so. What do you think imposed the obligation that means they should censor what is written? (Or, in shorter form, Why should they). If a butcher had rotten meat on show in his shop window he would remove it or risk his business being compromised,Facebook is a business it relies on posts by people to keep the business thriving,,why shouldnt they ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Because they aren't selling those posts to anyone and they have no obligation to censor them. Do you even know what business model they have? And do you accept that the question of "why should they" was quite a reasonable one to ask... More so since you can't answer it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamrocker Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Because they aren't selling those posts to anyone and they have no obligation to censor them. Do you even know what business model they have? And do you accept that the question of "why should they" was quite a reasonable one to ask... More so since you can't answer it. So I havent answered it ..fair enough.... its like a saying from around here .."its like p****** in bed awekken talking to thee".A simpleton could grasp the plot, keep up the good work you may reach those heady heights one day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vader Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 The "racially-aggravated" public order charge has been dropped, and rightly so, as this was not a racist remark. The 19 year old is now charged with making "grossly offensive" comments on Facebook. Do they realise how busy the courts are going to be, if we're going to start this ball rolling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutch Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Freedom of speech is only free if the person speaking is free from brainwashing, cultural, religious pre programming. 99% of people think they can speak freely but are unaware everything they say is just repeating their parents, teachers, preachers, media. Court and old fashioned punishment cannot do any service here it will only make people angry and put more fuel on the heated fire of fighting opinions. All these opinions are false, all of them on both sides, it does not matter. Both sides british and muslim, are equaly blind as one another here and incapable of seeing it themselves. Freedom only exists when someone is free from its past, programming, pre programmed public opinions. Few, very very few people, allmost none, have bothered to leave that preprogrammed road behind. Only they can claim total freedom in what they say and what they do. Most people are idiots thinking they are free but they are really are following the crowd (british ore muslim it does not matter) thinking they are free while unaware of how everything they say is a repetition of public opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polo mint Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 "All the soldiers should die and go to hell" might have been the issue, and the accusation of brutality on civilians rape torture ECT; Rather disgusting and offensive to the armed forces and their families. So yes get him prosecuted and bang him up, I dare say that someone like the Jehovah's Witnesses or BNP will pop round to chat about religion with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex1985 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 If muslims or any other people for that fact aren't happy with our laws and the fact we are proud of our troops who do a very good job overseas maybe its time for them to leave the UK. Theres going to be more riots in the future alot more people are joining groups like EDL. I think it just comes down to the fact people are fed up with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 If muslims or any other people for that fact aren't happy with our laws and the fact we are proud of our troops who do a very good job overseas maybe its time for them to leave the UK. Theres going to be more riots in the future alot more people are joining groups like EDL. I think it just comes down to the fact people are fed up with it. I'm not happy with some of our laws, where exactly do you suggest I leave to go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Freedom of speech is only free if the person speaking is free from brainwashing, cultural, religious pre programming. 99% of people think they can speak freely but are unaware everything they say is just repeating their parents, teachers, preachers, media. We're all only repeating things that we learned somewhere, having an original thought is quite rare. Freedom of speech doesn't mean only free to speak about original thoughts though does it, it includes repeating opinions you've picked up from elsewhere. Court and old fashioned punishment cannot do any service here it will only make people angry and put more fuel on the heated fire of fighting opinions. All these opinions are false, all of them on both sides Opinions can't be false, they could be factually inaccurate, but they're only opinions. , it does not matter. Both sides british and muslim, are equaly blind as one another here and incapable of seeing it themselves. Freedom only exists when someone is free from its past, programming, pre programmed public opinions. What a pointless definition of freedom. Few, very very few people, allmost none, have bothered to leave that preprogrammed road behind. Only they can claim total freedom in what they say and what they do. Most people are idiots thinking they are free but they are really are following the crowd (british ore muslim it does not matter) thinking they are free while unaware of how everything they say is a repetition of public opinion. How is this relevant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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