Harleyman Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 If only it were that easy. There's no reason that it shouldn't be easy. It's just a matter of the government having the gumption to make it clear that the law of protection for a UK citizen under the age of 16 supersedes any and all religious beliefs and customs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Women are still seen as a commodity in many parts of the world. The major Abrahamic religions don't help womens' cause much in this respect either. Then it's a clear case of what i posted previously that young British girls are being sent overseas as "commodities" ( read slaves for slaves have no rights) and the government by not taking measures against it are condoning it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adyfife Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 congratulations to everyone who wanted a multicultural country, you won and now we all lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Unfounded conclusions? What would be the point of a man taking a child for a bride? For starters you jumped to another conclusion... Who said it wasn't two children that were being 'married'? If sexual gratification with a young virgin isn't part of the scene at that period of the marriage then the alternative purpose must be servitude and complete obedience. A form of slavery by any other name You've obviously got it all set out in your head, no point in investigating what actually happens. Don't get me wrong, I disagree with any forced marriage, but not because I immediately assume it means child abuse like you've concluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 There's no reason that it shouldn't be easy. It's just a matter of the government having the gumption to make it clear that the law of protection for a UK citizen under the age of 16 supersedes any and all religious beliefs and customs. That is already the case. Forced marriage isn't even mainly about children, it's about young adults who are forced to marry. But either way you can't stop the practice by passing more laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloomdido Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 There is some useful information here. Cyclone is correct. Legislation won't do anything but Education and challenging this practice at every opportunity just might. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 That is already the case. Forced marriage isn't even mainly about children, it's about young adults who are forced to marry. But either way you can't stop the practice by passing more laws. Yes you can or rather the government can. Any young adult who is being sent overseas to a forced marriage should under the law have the right to refuse and if the family threaten or abuse her in any way then they should be subject to prosecution. If this is not the case then there's something very wrong going on. Immigrants have a right to practice their religion but there is a demarcation line or should be in just how far their practices are allowed to go without infringing on the rights and freedoms of others. Immigrants come to countries for a better life and opportunities but not to set up their own little kingdoms and laws within that country. The laws of rights and freedoms should be made very clear to them before they are accepted and that they are expected to respect and obey these laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 They already have the right to refuse. If the family could be proven to have threatened or abused them in any way they could already be prosecuted. The real problem is educating these youngsters about their rights, and getting them to exercise those rights at the risk of having their family prosecuted. Arranged marriages are not illegal in the UK, distinguishing between an arranged and a forced marriage isn't always as straight forward as you seem to think, particularly not if it requires a child to speak out against their parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 There is some useful information here. Cyclone is correct. Legislation won't do anything but Education and challenging this practice at every opportunity just might. Nothing much can be done to stop the practice of forced marriage in foreign countries but we're talking about the UK here. The land of Magna Carta and Habeus Corpus, trial by a jury of ones peers, first world country and still a leading power in world affairs whose laws of freedoms and rights have been adopted by millions of citizens of other countries across the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamrocker Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 This is about a 'marriage' ceremony, not sex. And the ceremony is not a legally recognised one so they aren't legally considered to be married. They may not be to all intents and purpose re British law but by their own religious standards they are,youre splitting hairs and they dont give a fig for British law in any shape or form,it conflicts with Sharia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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