How to get rid of this unelected government

[xenia]

Making as much sense as usual then' date=' eh Jim?[/quote']

 

You point out my contadictions, I am large, I contain multitudes.

[cressida]

Shut up woman, when want your opinon we will give it you

 

choose your weapons:hihi:

[esme]

pointless! the system is corrupt

 

 

a revolution is needed:)

...and then what ?

 

Once you've taken down the system what do you intend to replace it with ?

 

You need the infrastructure to remain in place and operational otherwise innocent people get hurt, but there again revolutions are more about settling scores and spilling blood than they are about removing governments.

[xenia]

there isn't a socialist party any more, labour is no more socialist than you are.

 

 

 

how?

 

they have destroyed demand and are borrowing billions to pay for the unemployment they have created by destroying demand. i really would like you to explain how that is going to leave us solvent?

 

Gold reserves up, borrowing down, inflation down, 54trillion being managed in City of London, lowest interest rate available to government due to prudent and tough policies.

 

Slowly but surely the UK is recovering. That is why the unions must be resisted, as Milliband and his gang are clearly failed the unions see there opportunity to seize power.

 

This is a crucial moment, they must be faced up to.

[xenia]

what's wrong with doing both?

 

and i really doubt that the post i was responding too was serious

 

I have made a mistake, my response should have posted elsewhere. My apologies.

[esme]

Just how many parties do you envisage in a parliament?

One per constituency, yes there would be a great deal of squabbling and not much would get done but at least parliament would represent the people and not whichever lobbyist last bought dinner.

A nightmare of dozens of squabbling heads all trying to get their own little agendas passed and fighting over who and what gets a piece of the pie from the national budget.

Sounds like the UN

[I1L2T3]

Gold reserves up, borrowing down, inflation down, 54trillion being managed in City of London, lowest interest rate available to government due to prudent and tough policies.

 

Slowly but surely the UK is recovering. That is why the unions must be resisted, as Milliband and his gang are clearly failed the unions see there opportunity to seize power.

 

This is a crucial moment, they must be faced up to.

 

How much have gold reserves gone up by? Why buy at prices near the historical high?

 

Ultra low interest rates are a sign of serious economic problems. The low cost of borrowing just allows the true cost of the government's economic policies to be hidden.

 

Last quarter 2011 growth has been revised. The OECD has predicted that we are heading into a technical recession.

 

This is a crucial moment indeed and the use of confrontational language (by both sides) is not going to help us. Both sides have a part to play in getting us back to recovery.

[Balpin]

choose your weapons:hihi:

 

Cutlass at Dawn!!

But I will be in bed

[Balpin]

I can only speak for my own case; my income puts me well below the official poverty line but I'm better off now than I was two years ago.

 

I am well above the average, but still poverety sticken. due to this lot.

[green]

the ballot box hasn't failed though, everyone of us here have.

 

the choice we are offered of three almost identical parties and a handful of nutters and other unsavoury types is a result of us, the citizens, disconnecting from politics.

 

if you want a better quality of candidate then there is one thing to do and that is to get involved, join your local party, whichever one suits your preferences labour, conservative or lib dem. get involved in selecting the candidate, select someone who isn't the standard "ppe-graduate special advisor" type but select a person who has done an honest days work, experienced real life, is normal. if no one like that stands, then find someone who is like that an encourage them to stand. once you have selected the right candidate, go out and canvass.

 

if we all work together we can reclaim politics, don't expect someone else to do this for you because the current shower are that someone else.

 

 

An interesting article about how Political parties exclude the electorate...

http://www.iaindale.com/posts/how-the-political-parties-exclude-the-general-public

 

This paragraph particularly highlights the issues with the party system which shows they promote their own "people" and not so often a good local candidate :-

 

Let’s take selecting candidates for election which is absolutely a closed shop. Candidates are selected from a tiny group of activists who have to preform strange rituals to impress other activists in order to try and be selected. You have to stop having much of a life outside of politics in order to focus your efforts. You have to endure endless and often pointless meetings held in bizarre locations and appear to enjoy them. You have to learn how to access blocks of flats with entry phones in order to leaflets that no one reads. And you have to make sure that you learn the language of the political elite, the lexicon of the politically initiated within your chosen political tribe. And all of this just to be considered. The chances are that the whole thing will end up being stitched up in some way or other anyway and your best bet is that you are the beneficiary of said stitch-up.

 

Most of our cabinet do not represent their local areas, they represent a safe(ish) seat that their party felt they could offer to the candidate they wanted within Government. This policy will not change anytime soon.

 

I regularly read both the Guardian & Telegraph boards and a common theme is that the party is no longer connecting with their followers. Our MP's have long been bought by big business and banking or the Unions.