brianthedog Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 No, you are totally wrong. You are confusing your fiction with my fact. You should stop being foolish. Do you really think that some of the diehard tories would ever vote for anyone else? NO....They WOULD NOT! Enlighten me... Where am I wrong or misunderstood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Soft Posted April 3, 2012 Author Share Posted April 3, 2012 Enlighten me... Where am I wrong or misunderstood? If a political party in its manifesto stated that it would let all people retire at 40 years old and give them £1,000,000 upon retirement who do you think most people approaching 40 or just over 40 would vote for? If they did not like the fact that their MP from this party had big ears, do you think that they would vote for another party and lose their early retirement and £Million? They would vote for the party and its policies....NOT the MP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthedog Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 If a political party in its manifesto stated that it would let all people retire at 40 years old and give them £1,000,000 upon retirement who do you think most people approaching 40 or just over 40 would vote for? If they did not like the fact that their MP from this party had big ears, do you think that they would vote for another party and lose their early retirement and £Million? They would vote for the party and its policies....NOT the MP! So on the ballot form they'd vote for that party and not the MP representing the party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Soft Posted April 3, 2012 Author Share Posted April 3, 2012 So on the ballot form they'd vote for that party and not the MP representing the party? Yes, they would vote for whichever MP represents the party, no matter who he/she may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Yes, they would vote for whichever MP represents the party, no matter who he/she may be. They vote for the MP, if they choose to do that along party lines because of party manifesto that's up to them, but they are still choosing to vote for an MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erebus Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 You can vote these days for who you like, as that is what is required, WHY? Because it does not matter, as he that controls the purse strings runs the economy......and it ain't any of the puppets you vote for is it? So go and vote, as you think it counts, and it does as it show who will conform and who will not, and you might as it does not matter, as it is a sham. We have a democracy in which you have no say at all, brilliant! Vote Labor and we throw money at defense, which is another way of saying war, vote Tory and its the same, Vote barnyard animal for all the good it will do you, as priorities are not you the people, the roads, health, education and such, which are being sold off as I write, but corporate interests, as they make money, and the people do not. So welcome the Olympics, as you like others could get a temporary job in the service area, getting minimum wage, running to stay still is another way of looking at it. So go and vote as it counts, as in the percentage still fooled by the propaganda, pat yourself on the back that you conform and are a good citizen, as the people who pull the economic strings, p*ss themselves with laughter at how effective their messages are to the ill informed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Soft Posted April 3, 2012 Author Share Posted April 3, 2012 They vote for the MP, if they choose to do that along party lines because of party manifesto that's up to them, but they are still choosing to vote for an MP. They are indeed voting for the party via an unimportant figurehead. That is accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 They are indeed voting for the party No. It is not physically possible, in this country, to vote for a party*. Your only options are to vote for a specific candidate, or not vote at all. People may well choose a party, but their vote is for a specific candidate who is supported by that party - not for the party itself. *European elections not included, since those are conducted on a PR system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Soft Posted April 3, 2012 Author Share Posted April 3, 2012 You can vote these days for who you like, as that is what is required, WHY? Because it does not matter, as he that controls the purse strings runs the economy......and it ain't any of the puppets you vote for is it? So go and vote, as you think it counts, and it does as it show who will conform and who will not, and you might as it does not matter, as it is a sham. We have a democracy in which you have no say at all, brilliant! Vote Labor and we throw money at defense, which is another way of saying war, vote Tory and its the same, Vote barnyard animal for all the good it will do you, as priorities are not you the people, the roads, health, education and such, which are being sold off as I write, but corporate interests, as they make money, and the people do not. So welcome the Olympics, as you like others could get a temporary job in the service area, getting minimum wage, running to stay still is another way of looking at it. So go and vote as it counts, as in the percentage still fooled by the propaganda, pat yourself on the back that you conform and are a good citizen, as the people who pull the economic strings, p*ss themselves with laughter at how effective their messages are to the ill informed. You are very cynical. Our experiences teach us to be that way unfortunately as English politicians are corrupt. We all know it but cannot figure out what to do about it. The middle and working class peoples boats are gradually sinking whilst the ruling classes merely laugh and throw more water at us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Soft Posted April 3, 2012 Author Share Posted April 3, 2012 No. It is not physically possible, in this country, to vote for a party*. Your only options are to vote for a specific candidate, or not vote at all. People may well choose a party, but their vote is for a specific candidate who is supported by that party - not for the party itself. *European elections not included, since those are conducted on a PR system. Oh dear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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