spooky3 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Yes it does. Caffeine is the world's most widely consumed psychoactive substance. How high do you get? Don't be silly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Population growth over the last thirty years is fairly negligible. Easily available, yes - that's exactly the point. Criminal gangs supplying heroin want to supply it to as many people as possible to get them hooked - the NHS never did that. The policing of the crime needs to be more robust and thorough then. Maybe that is where questions need to be asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferno Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 How high do you get? Don't be silly! What do you think is different about caffeine's effect on the human body compared with heroin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferno Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 The policing of the crime needs to be more robust and thorough then. Maybe that is where questions need to be asked. Like in drug-free America? Incarceration makes no difference, people always want to get high, it's as natural as drunk wasps in the orchard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Like in drug-free America? Incarceration makes no difference, people always want to get high, it's as natural as drunk wasps in the orchard. I would imagine it is only a tiny minority of the population who are addicted or take illegal drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The real me Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Good for them. They will inherit the earth when western civilisation like that of the Greeks and Romans become a society of drug besotted wastrels and self destructive, spineless degenerates Many a true word spoken in jest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky3 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Population growth over the last thirty years is fairly negligible. Easily available, yes - that's exactly the point. Criminal gangs supplying heroin want to supply it to as many people as possible to get them hooked - the NHS never did that. Well here's some support to your claim... But in mid-1950s Britain, the spectre of drug addiction was a long way from the top of the public's concerns. In fact, as the Times editorial states, in 1955 there were only 317 addicts to "manufactured" drugs in the whole of Britain, of which just 15% were dependent on heroin. That's a national total of 47.5 heroin addicts. History, regrettably, does not record the precise circumstances of the half-addict. mmm, doesn't sound plausible does it! Especially when you read the rest of the article. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4647018.stm The UK Department of Health's Rolleston Committee Report[22] in 1926 established the British approach to diacetylmorphine prescription to users, which was maintained for the next 40 years: dealers were prosecuted, but doctors could prescribe diacetylmorphine to users when withdrawing from it would cause harm or severe distress to the patient. This "policing and prescribing" policy effectively controlled the perceived diacetylmorphine problem in the UK until 1959 when the number of diacetylmorphine addicts doubled every 16th month during a period of ten years, 1959–1968.[23] In 1964 the Brain Committee recommended that only selected approved doctors working at approved specialised centres be allowed to prescribe diacetylmorphine and benzoylmethylecgonine (cocaine) to users. The law was made more restrictive in 1968. Beginning in the 1970s, the emphasis shifted to abstinence and the use of methadone, until now only a small number of users in the UK are prescribed diacetylmorphine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroin Although it remained legal in some countries until after World War II, health risks, addiction, and widespread recreational use led most western countries to declare heroin a controlled substance by the latter half of the 20th century. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroin So it was becoming a noticeable problem before they banned it! NOTE: 1881 - 24,402,700 1971 - 45,870,100 2008 - 51,456,400 Population growth, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_England The population of the UK has more than doubled since heroin was synthesized. As the quote above alludes, your figures of addicts is wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The real me Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 What do you think is different about caffeine's effect on the human body compared with heroin? You're not seriously comparing heroin with tea and coffee? are you?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky3 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 What do you think is different about caffeine's effect on the human body compared with heroin? Not bothered TBH, it's irrelevant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferno Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 I would imagine it is only a tiny minority of the population who are addicted or take illegal drugs. About 119 million Americans have used an illicit substance at least once. An estimated 22 million Americans used illegal drugs at least once per month in 2009. http://drugsense.org/blog/drug-policy/how-many-americans-use-illegal-drugs Prescribed drugs are as big a problem in America, see Michael Jackson, Elvis, Whitley Eustace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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