ferno Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Thankyou for reinforcing my point that a switch to coffee is all that is needed to break the addiction to illegal drug use. Lots of people have sex,play computer games and drink coffee. Our pleasure receptors are what drives all human behaviour, pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky3 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Lots of people have sex,play computer games and drink coffee. Our pleasure receptors are what drives all human behaviour, pretty much. But at what levels... are what you are ranting about comparable to heroin, no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The real me Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 The Home Office grants a license do heroin can be dispensed. That's what they did in Liverpool, where the cops said acquisitive crime plummeted. Dispensed freely though yes? thats what would need to happen to stop acquisitive crime. Of all the things that people call for to be provided by the state, heroin realy takes the biscuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferno Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 (1) Like the stimulants, caffeine and cocaine, heroin is not a debilitating drug. That is, moderate usage does not interfere with one’s functioning, e.g. driving ability. This is in contrast to alcohol, in which one’s performance is directly hampered. Extreme usage can interfere just like with caffeine and cocaine, e.g. too much of a stimulant can make it difficult to focus and even cause hallucinations. However, even heroin addicts can moderate their usage so that they can work unimpaired and avoid withdrawal symptoms. For this reason, heroin addicts can and do have successful professional lives in such diverse fields as surgery and law enforcement. (2) Long-term heroin addiction is relatively harmless to one’s health. Like caffeine addicts who “need” their coffee in the morning, the side-effects are minimal. Heroin’s long-term side-effects can include constipation and impotency. This is in contrast to alcohol and tobacco which destroy the liver and the lungs respectively. (3) Like caffeine, it is difficult to fatally overdose on heroin by itself. (It is easy to overdose when using heroin and alcohol in combination.) The popular image of a dead heroin user with the needle still in his or her arm is misleading. A fatal heroin overdose is usually a long process that takes over an hour and it can be countered within minutes by an antidote. http://suburra.com/blog/2008/04/23/heroin-is-harmless/ In many ways heroin is as harmless as caffeine and it is definitely less harmful than alcohol. When tobacco was rationed in Germany during WW1 people did things for tobacco that people do now for heroin or crack. Sexual things. The addiction’s the same or stronger, but the current availability and low price make tobacco a less prostituting drug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Dispensed freely though yes? thats what would need to happen to stop acquisitive crime. Of all the things that people call for to be provided by the state, heroin realy takes the biscuit. Given how cheaply heroin can be manufactured, that's precisely why it would be such a sensible move. You could prescribe free heroin to addicts and cut out hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of acquisitive crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferno Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Of all the things that people call for to be provided by the state, heroin realy takes the biscuit. Cheaper than methadone, some say: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2114302/Prescribing-heroin-cost-effective-methadone-claim-scientists.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky3 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Is heroin addiction good? Should we be promoting it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferno Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 At the farmgate in Pakistan, a kilogram of opium costs $90; when it has been converted to heroin it costs $3,000 in Pakistan; wholesale in the USA it costs $80,000; and its final retail price on the street (at the DEA’s quoted average purity of 40%) is $290,000 per kilogram (United Nations Drug Control Program Report, 1997, p126). Just look at all that money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The real me Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 In many ways heroin is as harmless as caffeine I dont buy this, I just dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Dispensed freely though yes? thats what would need to happen to stop acquisitive crime. Freely or cheaply, I don't know which. The point, though, is that it did stop acquisitive crime. Don't we want to reduce crime levels and suffering caused thereby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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