JFKvsNixon Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 I don't know if they randomly test people who have been arrested for drugs offences and served a term of imprionment or if they apply the law as here. If you scan back through this thread you'll see the huge numbers that are in prison in the USA because of drug offences, would you say that this has brought them closer to winning the war on drugs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 So no real change to the law then. Different question isn't it! No this is the position that I feel would work the best and the one I've been arguing for. The doctors are allowed to prescribed the heroin for the addicts, so they don't have to go to their dealers to feed their addiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky3 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 If you scan back through this thread you'll see the huge numbers that are in prison in the USA because of drug offences, would you say that this has brought them closer to winning the war on drugs? Prison isn't a working solution, but it is the best thing we've got to deal with it. But, say you legalise heroin, then what will the dealers move onto, therefore, where would it all end, legalise everything...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky3 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 No this is the position that I feel would work the best and the one I've been arguing for. The doctors are allowed to prescribed the heroin for the addicts, so they don't have to go to their dealers to feed their addiction. So there would still be a black market then. Anyone who is functioning well enough to work or such, they probably wouldn't want to go to these places, or allow the data to get on documents and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 If you scan back through this thread you'll see the huge numbers that are in prison in the USA because of drug offences, would you say that this has brought them closer to winning the war on drugs? Something has to change and if addicts were not released until they were drug free (and surely if the will was there this should be possible) and there was the deterrent of random drug testing this may stop some from returning to their old ways because of the threat of harsher conditions on reimprisonment. The present system of having to catch someone in possession or dealing is hit or miss but random testing would mean a person would not have to actually be in possession just using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferno Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 What criminal enterprise could source pharmaceutical heroin at prices lower than those paid at the Pakistan farm gate? No illicit organisation could compete with mass-sourced pharmaceuticals, that's why there's no black market in aspirin, it's dirt cheap to start with. Funnily enough Heroin, or diamorphine, was first marketed by Bayer in 1898, after being developed as a cough suppressant by the same team who introduced aspirin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferno Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Something has to change and if addicts were not released until they were drug free (and surely if the will was there this should be possible) and there was the deterrent of random drug testing this may stop some from returning to their old ways because of the threat of harsher conditions on reimprisonment. The present system of having to catch someone in possession or dealing is hit or miss but random testing would mean a person would not have to actually be in possession just using. Heroin is more popular than cannabis among prisoners because heroin leaves the blood stream much faster. Prisoners take heroin to avoid the drug tests! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky3 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 What criminal enterprise could source pharmaceutical heroin at prices lower than those paid at the Pakistan farm gate? No illicit organisation could compete with mass-sourced pharmaceuticals, that's why there's no black market in aspirin, it's dirt cheap to start with. Funnily enough Heroin, or diamorphine, was first marketed by Bayer in 1898, after being developed as a cough suppressant by the same team who introduced aspirin. You hear stories of fake aspirin every year or so... http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=fake+aspirin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 So there would still be a black market then. Anyone who is functioning well enough to work or such, they probably wouldn't want to go to these places, or allow the data to get on documents and such. Why would there be a black market? The addict has a choice, they can either get their heroin from the NHS for free, knowing it clean and pure, without the associated law breaking that can surround the local scum bag drug dealer selling it. Or they can go out for a few hours on the rob with all the associated risks in an attempt to raise the money needed to buy their drugs, then they buy those drugs from the local scum bag dealer without knowing what they are buying, strength or what it's been cut with. It's a no brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Prison isn't a working solution, but it is the best thing we've got to deal with it. But, say you legalise heroin, then what will the dealers move onto, therefore, where would it all end, legalise everything...? That's the lamest excuse I've ever heard for not trying to put the scum bag drug dealers out of business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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