andygardener Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Yaaaaaaaaawn! So you can't provide details of any secretly organised demos then. Thought not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksandr Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 This still isn't a good example of something that is currently legal, that could unfairly/wrongly be made illegal if a government agency happened upon it whilst monitoring a phone call or intercepting an email.Not the point. The legality or otherwise is irrelevant. I doubt whether an oligarchical dictatorship or similar would care whether something was legal or illegal. The only thing that matters to them is whether they like it or not. What I'm saying is that it would be near impossible to protest against a government with these powers if it didn't want you to protest. Then you wouldn't be able to stop it - ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksandr Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 I doubt that under the current laws many terrorists title their mails stuff like "Re: our planned unspeakable acts of mass carnage" Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Not the point. The legality or otherwise is irrelevant. I doubt whether an oligarchical dictatorship or similar would care whether something was legal or illegal. The only thing that matters to them is whether they like it or not. What I'm saying is that it would be near impossible to protest against a government with these powers if it didn't want you to protest. Then you wouldn't be able to stop it - ever! As we've seen in Syria. However laws about ISP record keeping don't seem to be the issue there. Having an army seems to be the issue that is killing loads of Syrians. So using your logic we should not have an army as one day we may end up with someone like Bashar el Assad in charge. Do you think we shouldn't have an army? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksandr Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 As we've seen in Syria. However laws about ISP record keeping don't seem to be the issue there. Having an army seems to be the issue that is killing loads of Syrians. So using your logic we should not have an army as one day we may end up with someone like Bashar el Assad in charge. Do you think we shouldn't have an army?Am I alone in thinking that your question is a wind-up, or just plain daft? Of course we must have an army, but it must be under our control via a democratic government, and not by an oligarchical dictatorship! Armies do what they are told. (Generally.) Now if you'll excuse me, I have other things to do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Am I alone in thinking that your question is a wind-up, or just plain daft? Of course we must have an army, but it must be under our control via a democratic government, and not by an oligarchical dictatorship! Armies do what they are told. (Generally.) Now if you'll excuse me, I have other things to do! So we can have an army because we're a democracy but we can't ask ISPs to store information for a couple of years in case we end up with a mental dictator? That's your thesis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denomis Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 So we can have an army because we're a democracy but we can't ask ISPs to store information for a couple of years in case we end up with a mental dictator? That's your thesis? We can't have ISPs storing data because you know someone's just gonna hack that stuff in less time than I can make weetabix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch66 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 We can't have ISPs storing data because you know someone's just gonna hack that stuff in less time than I can make weetabix What about the data every website you visit holds? Most people would shudder if they knew what is actually captured by websites. Big brother is watching us already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denomis Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 What about the data every website you visit holds? Most people would shudder if they knew what is actually captured by websites. Big brother is watching us already. Like I said before 7 proxys. It's the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch66 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Like I said before 7 proxys. It's the future What proxies are you using? or which ones do you recommend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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