truman Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 http://www.nhs.uk/news/2009/10October/Pages/Copper-bracelets-and-arthritis.aspx Bit of a test above... If the pain is being caused by an underlying symptom then isn't the placebo effect causing harm if it just decreases the pain felt..in that the patient will feel that the actual cause has gone away but is ,in fact, still there and possibly getting worse..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMorris Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 http://www.nhs.uk/news/2009/10October/Pages/Copper-bracelets-and-arthritis.aspx Bit of a test above... If the pain is being caused by an underlying symptom then isn't the placebo effect causing harm if it just decreases the pain felt..in that the patient will feel that the actual cause has gone away but is ,in fact, still there and possibly getting worse..? Thanks for that info Truman. But that test was carried out specifically on osteoarthritis sufferers. The OP mentioned tennis elbow. So he knows what the underlying problem is. All he wanted was to 'see' if it might help in his particular circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Thanks for that info Truman. But that test was carried out specifically on osteoarthritis sufferers. The OP mentioned tennis elbow. So he knows what the underlying problem is. All he wanted was to 'see' if it might help in his particular circumstances. Fair enough but I'd have thought pain was pain no matter what was causing it...if something doesn't stop pain from one thing then why/how would it stop/reduce pain from another..? Genuine question.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMorris Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Fair enough but I'd have thought pain was pain no matter what was causing it...if something doesn't stop pain from one thing then why/how would it stop/reduce pain from another..? Genuine question.. Eeeek....I dunno! I'm no expert in these things. I've just known people who swear by them, and it works for them, which in my book is fair enough. Usually these people know what's causing the pain, and are reluctant for whatever reason to take medication on a permanent basis to solve the problem. I've never heard of anyone using one, who deosn't know what the cause of the problem is. I even tried one once when I had a frozen shoulder. It didn't work for me. But I thought it might at least be worth a 'shot'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fake Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 But clearly it does work for some people. So they're not being tricked or scammed. It works for them! How can you say they are fools, just because it works for them? There is absolutely no scientific basis that these can work and I have not read any reports that they do, so the bottom line is they don't! Once again.. its a placebo effect which has nothing to do with the fact that the actual product has no proven therapeutic value. The effect is from a mental state that believes its working. Some may say that strapping a carrot to the wrist works just as well but the truth is its all cobblers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabM Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Fair enough but I'd have thought pain was pain no matter what was causing it...if something doesn't stop pain from one thing then why/how would it stop/reduce pain from another..? Genuine question.. No, pain is just a signal and your perception varies with circumstances - ever hurt yourself while you're busy and not realized until you'd slowed down and then the pain hits? As to the magnets they're usually the same kind as in fridge magnets, narrow strips alternating north and south poles. This gives a strong magnetic field very very close in but which dies off very very quickly. They're not enough to penetrate the upper layers of the skin. See how may sheets of paper you can stick to a fridge with one. Some claim they promote blood flow as blood as iron but the iron in blood isn't ferromagnetic, it's diagmagnetic. See Robert Park's "Voodoo Science" for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staninoodle Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 hi, does anyone know of anywhere that sells copper magnetic bracelets?? im in agony with my arms (tennis elbow) and willing to give anything a try!! thanks Tennis elbow can be attributed to tendonitis,a type of repetative strain via work,or an old injury thats not healed correctly,a lot of batsmen get it via gripping the handle which requires surgery. Theres a guy on youtube that recommends a few excersises that can help,well worth a try.Iv had the same injury for a few months now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenmonkeys Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I sell magic string at £10 a metre. I have some magic beans, £10 for 6, used together with the magic string you could make a magic bracelet that would make you able to fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barleycorn Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Eeeek....I dunno! I'm no expert in these things. I've just known people who swear by them, and it works for them, which in my book is fair enough. Usually these people know what's causing the pain, and are reluctant for whatever reason to take medication on a permanent basis to solve the problem. I've never heard of anyone using one, who deosn't know what the cause of the problem is. I even tried one once when I had a frozen shoulder. It didn't work for me. But I thought it might at least be worth a 'shot'. How would you know whether it worked or not? jb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMorris Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 How would you know whether it worked or not? jb Ummmmm...I would have thought it was obvious. After wearing it for a few weeks, the pain didn't get any less or go away! For 'me' it didn't work. It was recommended by someone else, so I thought I'd try it. To be honest I was never personally convinced that it would anyway, perhaps that's why it didn't work. No placebo! But as I've said earlier, clearly it works for some, and that's fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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