tinfoilhat Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 It is claimed that God knows everything and made everything, so only God would know the answer to your question, maybe God just gave differant people differant learning asperations, but ultimatly God must know what each person would end up doing with their life. Assuming God exists. The evolution thing also has it's own brick wall. Birds. How many creatures fell off trees or cliffs before they evolved to having wings ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 The evolution thing also has it's own brick wall. Birds. How many creatures fell off trees or cliffs before they evolved to having wings ? Quite a few I should think. What's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Erikson Posted April 9, 2012 Author Share Posted April 9, 2012 Get real Tony. I don't any sane person would deny they Christianity has helped shape this country. It's all around you. Evolve with the country but what did it have to do with calendar, government, systems of law and so on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petminder Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 The evolution thing also has it's own brick wall. Birds. How many creatures fell off trees or cliffs before they evolved to having wings ? A rat fell off a cliff but he survived because he had a genetic mutation which gave him some feathers, some female rats saw his miraculous escape from certain death and wanted to breed with him, and after millions of years they became pigeons. Feral pigeon: flying rat or urban hero? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ousetunes Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Evolve with the country but what did it have to do with calendar, government, systems of law and so on? What has Christianity done for the world? What has Christianity done for the world? Christianity led to the end of murder of slaves in the coliseums of the Roman world, the beginning of healthcare for the masses and education for the common man. It brought an end to the slave trade and slavery itself. It brought workers rights through Lord Shaftesbury, and child protection agencies, like the RSPCC by William Wilberforce and other Christian leaders. Christianity also birthed the Civil Rights Movement with the leader being the preacher Martin Luther King Jr. and the end of Apartheid in South Africa, thanks to the leadership of Archbishop Desmond Tutu and Nelson Mandela. Christianity in addition has had a major impact upon all European languages, adding words, spelling, grammar and shaped what we say - the phrases, our idioms, and the Christian names of people, places and organisations. Great authors like C.S. Lewis and freedom fighters like John Knox were also inspired in the Christian tradition and helped change our world. Christian leaders like Elizabeth Fry fought for prison reform and the first Workers Union was set up by a Christian preacher and his friends, fighting for fair pay, better working conditions and a day of rest. Modern democracy is in huge debt to non-conformist Christianity, from Magna Carta with its Christian author, to the Rev. John Ball, the first great leader of a mass revolt, to Cromwell who ended the absolute rule of the Monarch and Christian parliamentarians who fought for the right for all to vote. In the U.S., Rick Warren said, “It was Christians who helped abolish slavery, achieve women’s suffrage, lead the civil-rights movement and drafted the Bill of Rights.” Without Christianity, the story of Europe, the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand and other nations would be totally different. The same could be said for modern Africa, where 60% of the people are Christians and a large majority of the states are now Christian. In Africa, it was Dr. David Livingstone, the missionary who worked to end slavery and introduce Christian values to much of the continent. He is one of the world’s greatest explorers and humanitarians. In addition, Christian leaders in their fight to end the slave trade set the template for all modern campaigning, and mass education was a significant step towards the people calling for democracy and human rights. In the field of science, many of the founding fathers of many areas were Christians, with a devout belief in the God of the Bible and the same is true for the leaders of the Industrial Revolution, which shaped the world we live in. Michael Faraday was a scientist and evangelical Christian whose pioneering work changed the modern world, in that he helped give us electricity and the founder of the Greenwich Observatory that gave us the world’s first great star map, was of course a preacher as well. Many of the people who put man on the moon, working in NASA, were also believers. Christianity in addition shaped politics, which gave us laws that protected the common man, as the Bible’s teaching on the equality of all men shaped our civilisation. Then missionaries spread these values around the world, turning entire nations into new realms to be shaped by the Christian message. Today churches still provide clubs for young people, for the elderly, mothers and toddlers clubs and a deep sense of community in a broken world. They are also fighting for a better world - being a key force behind Make Poverty History and over campaigns. In 2005, the British Prime Minister Tony Blair said, “...churches are among the most formidable campaigning organisations in history” and “...faith communities have always played a significant role in social action in Britain - in education, in welfare, in support for so many of the most vulnerable and needy in our society.” What has Christianity has done for the world? The answer is all around us, from the laws that protect us, to the principles that guide us. It has shaped every area of our lives, yet because its influence is so huge, we take its heritage for granted and forget that Christianity was the source of this civilisation! The story of what Christianity has done for the world is huge, and to consider it more, discover the book, ‘How Christianity Made the Modern World.’ Go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
six45ive Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 The evolution thing also has it's own brick wall. Birds. How many creatures fell off trees or cliffs before they evolved to having wings ? http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/vertebrates/flight/evolve.html .................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgksheff Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 1. There are differing levels of creationism. Some more acceptable than others. 2. Good schools do teach about the existence of creationism as a belief along with many other beliefs, mainly in social studies/RE classes but sometimes in science classes. 3. Those 'good' schools also teach students how to evaluate the information that is placed before them, to analyse it and come to rational judgements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
six45ive Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 2. Good schools do teach about the existence of creationism as a belief along with many other beliefs, mainly in social studies/RE classes but sometimes in science classes. No school I know of teaches it in science classes and it's certainly not a part of the science curriculum as it hasn't been accepted as a science and would be impossible to be accepted as such as it is not falsifiable. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/falsifiable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgksheff Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 No school I know of teaches it in science classes and it's certainly not a part of the science curriculum as it hasn't been accepted as a science and would be impossible to be accepted as such as it is not falsifiable. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/falsifiable Any teacher worth their salt, when teaching about evolution would mention that alternative theories exist. Guess what? I know some good teachers that do so. Perhaps you need to widen your experience before sharing its limitations with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Any teacher worth their salt, when teaching about evolution would mention that alternative theories exist. Guess what? I know some good teachers that do so. Perhaps you need to widen your experience before sharing its limitations with us. A good science teacher would not present Creationism as an alternative 'theory' to evolution. Creationism has no body of evidence to support it and as such isn't a scientific theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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