Mister M Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Grow up, no alternative, do you really want mr Bean lookalike to run this country further in the the s***. Give the man a chance to sort the crap Labour left us in.:loopy: But were now back in recession aren't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 But were now back in recession aren't we? True. And it's only us as well. Every other country in the world is great shape, in fact I'm sure France will have everyone in full employment by the end of the summer and driving gold plated cars by Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexikia Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 But were now back in recession aren't we? Do you really believe all the Bull**** the media tells you?> If we were in a deep a recesiion you wouldn't still be recieving your giro, idiot. Next thing you'll believing Greece is bust. The have gold reserves we can only dream of. Google it. Italy too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Do you really believe all the Bull**** the media tells you?> If we were in a deep a recesiion you wouldn't still be recieving your giro, idiot. Next thing you'll believing Greece is bust. The have gold reserves we can only dream of. Google it. Italy too. Apparently 100 tones which Europe can supposedly seize under the terms of the bail out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Apparently 100 tones which Europe can supposedly seize under the terms of the bail out. If they have 100 tonnes of gold then not selling it at the peaks in September, January or March has cost the Greek people, at today's gold price, four hundred million EURO! Not selling at the peaks can be as bad as selling off too cheaply at the lows. There is another problem with the gold though. It's dubious whether Greece and indeed other Eurozone countries still physically have control of their own gold or indeed still have the reserves that are claimed. For example in 2011 the Dutch admitted to having quietly sold off 40% of their gold since 2001 and refused to say where the rest of their gold was vaulted. It was suspected their remaining gold had been loaned to support price interventions in the gold market. French and Spanish gold holdings are also believed to be much lower than claimed, those countries having also quietly sold gold off in the last decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptowngirl Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 But were now back in recession aren't we? It would appear the UK economy is in better shape than our European neighbours. It costs us a fraction of the amount to service our debt compared to Frace, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Greece, Ireland, Poland, Belgium, Austria, Norway Holland.. It seems that spending too much can seriously damage your wealth. If our credit rating were lost and repayment interest were to increase to those paid by Ireland. It would cost us our entire NHS budget in extra interest each year. http://www.tradingeconomics.com/bonds-list-by-country Government Bonds yields - 10 Year Notes - List by Country Country Current Last Week Weekly Chg Last Month Monthly Chg Last Year Yearly Chg Greece 28.92 21.08 4.54 36.55 7.90 12.75 13.12 View Chart Pakistan 13.28 13.27 -0.02 13.07 0.06 14.08 -0.85 View Chart Brazil 12.55 12.53 0.00 12.34 0.00 12.38 0.05 View Chart Portugal 11.77 11.53 0.31 13.91 -0.73 8.51 2.58 View Chart India 8.51 8.59 -0.06 8.24 0.15 7.99 0.22 View Chart Hungary 8.43 9.06 0.23 8.70 -0.53 7.19 1.29 View Chart Ireland 8.21 8.21 0.00 8.21 0.00 9.98 -2.30 View Chart South Africa 8.20 8.20 0.00 8.20 0.00 7.93 -0.35 View Chart Colombia 7.60 7.60 0.00 3.63 0.00 7.01 -0.52 View Chart Peru 6.76 6.76 0.00 6.76 0.00 5.52 0.00 View Chart Indonesia 6.59 5.93 0.36 5.89 0.51 7.99 -0.98 View Chart Spain 6.29 5.35 0.29 4.91 0.41 5.31 0.93 View Chart Mexico 6.07 6.24 0.12 6.32 -0.01 7.50 -1.10 View Chart Russia 6.00 6.00 0.00 6.00 0.00 5.59 0.00 View Chart Italy 5.83 5.12 0.31 4.95 0.35 4.80 1.20 View Chart Poland 5.47 5.50 0.10 5.42 -0.09 6.26 -0.55 View Chart Israel 4.56 4.69 -0.08 4.71 -0.06 5.36 -0.64 View Chart Thailand 3.84 3.81 0.06 3.44 0.01 3.70 0.07 View Chart New Zealand 3.78 4.08 -0.02 4.17 -0.42 5.68 -1.45 View Chart South Korea 3.73 3.96 -0.06 3.85 -0.14 4.46 -0.60 View Chart Malaysia 3.53 3.67 -0.02 3.48 0.02 4.10 -0.46 View Chart China 3.39 3.52 -0.17 3.55 -0.16 3.92 -0.46 View Chart Czech Republic 3.32 3.53 -0.03 3.41 -0.17 4.17 -0.57 View Chart Belgium 3.24 3.41 0.04 3.50 -0.16 4.29 -0.97 View Chart Australia 3.23 3.98 -0.10 3.96 -0.58 5.54 -2.11 View Chart France 2.89 2.89 0.06 2.83 -0.13 3.72 -0.58 View Chart Austria 2.53 2.75 -0.04 2.85 -0.31 3.80 -1.01 View Chart Norway 2.38 2.38 0.00 2.38 0.00 3.86 -1.05 View Chart Netherlands 1.98 2.33 -0.12 2.25 -0.29 3.66 -1.41 View Chart Canada 1.95 2.10 -0.08 1.97 -0.13 3.37 -1.28 View Chart United Kingdom 1.88 2.20 -0.13 2.14 -0.22 3.72 -1.51 View Chart Finland 1.81 2.22 -0.10 2.21 -0.34 3.59 -1.60 View Chart United States 1.77 2.22 -0.14 1.97 -0.24 3.44 -1.41 View Chart Germany 1.47 1.79 -0.08 1.77 -0.28 3.37 -1.65 View Chart Sweden 1.47 1.99 -0.09 1.79 -0.35 3.38 -1.48 View Chart Singapore 1.46 1.64 -0.04 1.50 -0.14 2.50 -0.86 View Chart Denmark 1.37 1.83 -0.09 1.81 -0.36 3.61 -1.96 View Chart Hong Kong 1.10 1.24 -0.05 1.32 -0.13 2.73 -1.37 View Chart Japan 0.83 0.99 -0.03 0.98 -0.10 1.29 -0.33 View Chart Switzerland 0.65 0.86 0.00 0.69 -0.12 1.99 -1.25 View Chart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vader Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Grow up, no alternative, do you really want mr Bean lookalike to run this country further in the the s***. Same job, different face. We're going deeper in to it under Cameron. Double-dip, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 It would appear the UK economy is in better shape than our European neighbours. It costs us a fraction of the amount to service our debt compared to Frace, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Greece, Ireland, Poland, Belgium, Austria, Norway Holland.. It seems that spending too much can seriously damage your wealth. If our credit rating were lost and repayment interest were to increase to those paid by Ireland. It would cost us our entire NHS budget in extra interest each year. http://www.tradingeconomics.com/bonds-list-by-country Government Bonds yields - 10 Year Notes - List by Country Country Current Last Week Weekly Chg Last Month Monthly Chg Last Year Yearly Chg Greece 28.92 21.08 4.54 36.55 7.90 12.75 13.12 View Chart Pakistan 13.28 13.27 -0.02 13.07 0.06 14.08 -0.85 View Chart Brazil 12.55 12.53 0.00 12.34 0.00 12.38 0.05 View Chart Portugal 11.77 11.53 0.31 13.91 -0.73 8.51 2.58 View Chart India 8.51 8.59 -0.06 8.24 0.15 7.99 0.22 View Chart Hungary 8.43 9.06 0.23 8.70 -0.53 7.19 1.29 View Chart Ireland 8.21 8.21 0.00 8.21 0.00 9.98 -2.30 View Chart South Africa 8.20 8.20 0.00 8.20 0.00 7.93 -0.35 View Chart Colombia 7.60 7.60 0.00 3.63 0.00 7.01 -0.52 View Chart Peru 6.76 6.76 0.00 6.76 0.00 5.52 0.00 View Chart Indonesia 6.59 5.93 0.36 5.89 0.51 7.99 -0.98 View Chart Spain 6.29 5.35 0.29 4.91 0.41 5.31 0.93 View Chart Mexico 6.07 6.24 0.12 6.32 -0.01 7.50 -1.10 View Chart Russia 6.00 6.00 0.00 6.00 0.00 5.59 0.00 View Chart Italy 5.83 5.12 0.31 4.95 0.35 4.80 1.20 View Chart Poland 5.47 5.50 0.10 5.42 -0.09 6.26 -0.55 View Chart Israel 4.56 4.69 -0.08 4.71 -0.06 5.36 -0.64 View Chart Thailand 3.84 3.81 0.06 3.44 0.01 3.70 0.07 View Chart New Zealand 3.78 4.08 -0.02 4.17 -0.42 5.68 -1.45 View Chart South Korea 3.73 3.96 -0.06 3.85 -0.14 4.46 -0.60 View Chart Malaysia 3.53 3.67 -0.02 3.48 0.02 4.10 -0.46 View Chart China 3.39 3.52 -0.17 3.55 -0.16 3.92 -0.46 View Chart Czech Republic 3.32 3.53 -0.03 3.41 -0.17 4.17 -0.57 View Chart Belgium 3.24 3.41 0.04 3.50 -0.16 4.29 -0.97 View Chart Australia 3.23 3.98 -0.10 3.96 -0.58 5.54 -2.11 View Chart France 2.89 2.89 0.06 2.83 -0.13 3.72 -0.58 View Chart Austria 2.53 2.75 -0.04 2.85 -0.31 3.80 -1.01 View Chart Norway 2.38 2.38 0.00 2.38 0.00 3.86 -1.05 View Chart Netherlands 1.98 2.33 -0.12 2.25 -0.29 3.66 -1.41 View Chart Canada 1.95 2.10 -0.08 1.97 -0.13 3.37 -1.28 View Chart United Kingdom 1.88 2.20 -0.13 2.14 -0.22 3.72 -1.51 View Chart Finland 1.81 2.22 -0.10 2.21 -0.34 3.59 -1.60 View Chart United States 1.77 2.22 -0.14 1.97 -0.24 3.44 -1.41 View Chart Germany 1.47 1.79 -0.08 1.77 -0.28 3.37 -1.65 View Chart Sweden 1.47 1.99 -0.09 1.79 -0.35 3.38 -1.48 View Chart Singapore 1.46 1.64 -0.04 1.50 -0.14 2.50 -0.86 View Chart Denmark 1.37 1.83 -0.09 1.81 -0.36 3.61 -1.96 View Chart Hong Kong 1.10 1.24 -0.05 1.32 -0.13 2.73 -1.37 View Chart Japan 0.83 0.99 -0.03 0.98 -0.10 1.29 -0.33 View Chart Switzerland 0.65 0.86 0.00 0.69 -0.12 1.99 -1.25 View Chart Low bond yields are categorically NOT a sign of economic strength or of good economic health. I'm sorry you've fallen for the spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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