London met uni considering banning alcohol for its muslim students.

[Frank Sidney]

So people who don't drink alcohol shouldn't visit pubs, picnics or restaurants?

That's the whole point. Why ban alcohol then. Muslims can visit the Union without drinking. Why do they want others to do so also?

[Chris_Sleeps]

[Muslims ...] Why do they want others to do so also?

It's an idea that has been put forward by the Vice Chancellor. Not by any Muslims.

 

Secondly, and I'll keep flogging this until it goes in - the idea is to have some events with alcohol and some events without. When I was at university it was exactly the same. I knew that the Christian prayer group in room A was going to be a little quieter than the Rugby teams in Room B.

[mj.scuba]

Surely the muslim students can go to the many coffee outlets in universities?

 

That's what muslims do in the middle east in the evening, they sit in a cafe nursing a cup of coffee all night, looking a bit depressed because they are all blokes as women aren't allowed out after dark.

 

But I don't like coffee, and as a tea drinker I find coffee highly offensive as it's against my religion, therefor I propose an area of the campus should be coffee free, as befitting the cultural sensitivity to my intolerance of coffee consumption.

[teenyweeny]

But I don't like coffee, and as a tea drinker I find coffee highly offensive as it's against my religion, therefor I propose an area of the campus should be coffee free.

 

 

I do hope you are joking:hihi:

[boyfriday]

But I don't like coffee, and as a tea drinker I find coffee highly offensive as it's against my religion, therefor I propose an area of the campus should be coffee free, as befitting the cultural sensitivity to my intolerance of coffee consumption.

 

Indeed scuba and if in fact YOU were proposing such a prohibition then hopefully your arse would be kicked all around the campus, however I'm sure you'd be quite inflamed by the Tea Pro-vice Chancellor who knows bugger all about coffee advocating a ban of it on your behalf?

[rad]

Given this type of background and the university's position in the community wouldn't it perhaps be better for them to be teaching some tolerance and integration rather than further entrenching this seperatist attitude? After all this uni has plenty of coffee shops and food outlets that don't serve alcohol so I'm not really sure why this is necessary other than as a marketing stunt designed to appeal to exactly this sort of rather extreme attitude.

 

Absolutely, I'd agree that there should be encouragement of interaction between different communities and I think if the bars ended up becoming Muslim/Non-Muslim ones then that would be an issue that the university concerned would need to consider before implementing them - however, I don't think drinking/non-drinking bars per se are a bad thing for universities - and coffee shops don't tend to open as late or have pool tables/jukeboxes etc all of which you might find in pubs. Can't speak for the specific coffee shops/bars at London Met as I've not been to the campuses.

 

And it does have the smell of publicity stunt about it, although not sure it's the most successful PR strategy they could have adopted - not least because of the inflammatory responses they must have known they'd incite.

[anywebsite]

The thread title is very misleading. Wouldn't "London Met Uni considering not selling alcohol in some small selected areas" be more accurate?

[anywebsite]

But I don't like coffee, and as a tea drinker I find coffee highly offensive as it's against my religion, therefor I propose an area of the campus should be coffee free, as befitting the cultural sensitivity to my intolerance of coffee consumption.

 

I'm with you on this, coffee smells vile & coffee shops can never make a decent cup of tea.

[Frank Sidney]

It's an idea that has been put forward by the Vice Chancellor. Not by any Muslims.

 

Secondly, and I'll keep flogging this until it goes in - the idea is to have some events with alcohol and some events without. When I was at university it was exactly the same. I knew that the Christian prayer group in room A was going to be a little quieter than the Rugby teams in Room B.

 

Why do they have to have events with or without alcohol. One can attend an event that sells alcohol and not drink it, its not compulsory...There'll be many none Muslims drinking diet coke or red bull, why can't Muslims do the same?

[Halibut]

Why do they have to have events with or without alcohol. One can attend an event that sells alcohol and not drink it, its not compulsory...There'll be many none Muslims drinking diet coke or red bull, why can't Muslims do the same?

 

They can indeed do the same, but there are people who don't drink (including those other than Muslims, incredible as it might seem) who would prefer to go to social events where alcohol isn't served.

 

I think it's probably an attempt to make certain events and venues more attractive and appealing to Muslim students. I don't see anything controversial about that frankly.

 

Indeed it strikes me as somewhat ironic that some of those expressing horror about this story are the very same people who accuse Muslims of being insular and isolated. It's a move designed to make it easier for Muslims to socialise with their non-Muslim fellow students.