RootsBooster Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Prove he isnt then we can talk I've always wondered how theists can be so smug when they ask this. It is an illogical question (or stupid for want of a better word). You cannot prove that something DOESN'T exist, it isn't there so there is no proof to be had. The same goes for 50ft cockroaches, you can't prove they don't exist. But seeing as nobody has ever seen any evidence of them, we assume they don't, unless someone proves otherwise. If you claim that something DOES exist, then it is up to you to provide a case for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 If it was proved that there was no god would you lose your strength,inner peace and ability? No. I would take all he has given me and keep applying it to my life without him. It would be like leaving home for the first time. Your parents are no longer there but you take all they have taught you and live your life in the best way possible.. Actually it would be more like finding out your parents were imaginary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julado Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 For all of you who don't believe in God...its OK...HE believes in YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbdullaJones Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Nicely put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barleycorn Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 For all of you who don't believe in God...its OK...HE believes in YOU How do you know this? jb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Without the aide of fully functional time machine will never know exactly how it happened. That doesn't stop us from determining how it COULD happen. Much headway has been made in this area over the last 60 years or so. Here are a few to papers to get you started. A Combined Experimental And Theoretical Study On The Formation Of The Amino Acid Glycine And Its Isomer In Extraterrestrial Ices by Philip D. Holtom, Chris J. Bennett, Yoshihiro Osamura, Nigel J Mason and Ralf. I Kaiser, The Astrophysical Journal, 626: 940-952 (20th June 2005) A Production Of Amino Acids Under Possible Primitive Earth Conditions by Stanley L. Miller, Science, 117: 528-529 (15th May 1953) A Rigorous Attempt To Verify Interstellar Glycine by I. E. Snyder, F. J. Lovas, J. M. Hollis, D. N. Friedel, P. R. Jewell, A. Remijan, V. V. Ilyushin, E. A. Alekseev and S. F. Dyubko, The Astrophysical Journal, 619(2): 914-930 (1st February 2005) {Also available at arXiv.org] A Self-Replicating Ligase Ribozyme by Natasha Paul & Gerald F. Joyce, Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA., 99(20): 12733-12740 (1st October 2002) A Self-Replicating System by T. Tjivuka, P. Ballester and J. Rebek Jr, Journal of the American Chemical Society, 112: 1249-1250 (1990) Activated Acetic Acid By Carbon Fixation On (Fe,Ni)S Under Primordial Conditions by Claudia Huber and Günter Wächetershäuser, Science, 276: 245-247 (11th April 1997) An Asymmetric Underlying Rule In The Assignment Of Codons: Possible Clue To A Quick Early Evolution Of The Genetic Code Via Successive Binary Choices by Marc Delarue, The RNA Journal, 13(2): 161-169 (12th December 2006) Attempted Prebiotic Synthesis Of Pseudouridine by Jason P. Dworkin, Origins of Life and Evolution of the Biosphere, 27: 345-355 (1997) Carbonyl Sulphide-Mediated Prebiotic Formation Of Peptides by Luke Leman, Leslie Orgel and M. Reza Ghadiri, Science, 306: 283-286 (8th October 2004) Catalysis In Prebiotic Chemistry: Application To The Synthesis Of RNA Oligomers by James P. Ferris, Prakash C. Joshi, K-J Wang, S. Miyakawa and W. Huang, Advances in Space Research, 33: 100-105 (2004) http://www.rationalskepticism.org/chemistry/calilasseia-78-papers-on-abiogenesis-t845.html jb As you say these papers say how it could have happened not how it did so creation culd have started it or something else. The only true fact is that we do not know and so should not discount any possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barleycorn Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 As you say these papers say how it could have happened not how it did so creation culd have started it or something else. The only true fact is that we do not know and so should not discount any possibilities. In which case a healthy application of Occam's razor should be applied. Why invoke a supernatural being as the cause when there is no need? jb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 In which case a healthy application of Occam's razor should be applied. Why invoke a supernatural being as the cause when there is no need? jb We are discovering new things as science progresses and discounting other things. An open mind is needed to appreciate new discoveries will be made or old facts confirmed. As I said earlier no one knows how evolution started the theories say how they think it progressed. How do you think things started from nothing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quisquose Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 How do you think things started from nothing ? I don't think "nothing" is possible, which rather makes the question redundant imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denlin Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 For all of you who don't believe in God...its OK...HE believes in YOU Ooooh good, that should make us all suddenly believe in fairies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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