flamingjimmy Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 It is a stupid idea. Religious people 'believe' they have 'faith' they require neither proof nor reason, Atheists don't 'believe' the have no 'faith' they want proof and reason. You are wrong, people can and do change, it just doesn't happen very often. It's hard to reason with religious people, but that doesn't mean it isn't worth trying. And in any case, debate can be a reward in itself. I appreciate a well-constructed argument even if it doesn't change my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinz Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 You seem to have a comprehension problem, I haven't contributed to the debate for or against belief in god. I have merely commented on the nature of such a debate. Do you believe in God? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag82 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Do you believe in God? I don't believe in god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinz Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I don't believe in god. Then the following would point to your disbelief...which is a contribution to this thread. It is a stupid idea. Religious people 'believe' they have 'faith' they require neither proof nor reason, Atheists don't 'believe' the have no 'faith' they want proof and reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janie48 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 It's hard to reason with religious people, but that doesn't mean it isn't worth trying. And in any case, debate can be a reward in itself. I appreciate a well-constructed argument even if it doesn't change my mind. I would never have noticed that if you hadn't pointed it out. So if an SF meeting is arranged with you in attendance, can I invite a friend to join me. You would really like him, his name is Peter Hitchens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I would never have noticed that if you hadn't pointed it out. So if an SF meeting is arranged with you in attendance, can I invite a friend to join me. You would really like him, his name is Peter Hitchens. Are you telling fibs, Janie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janie48 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Are you telling fibs, Janie? Me telling fibs! how dare you. If Peter can't make it ,there's always Grahame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
six45ive Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 This debate reminds me of previous debates that prompted a number (albeit a small number) of SF people to get together in a central locality (ok, a pub in town) to discuss the issue with a drink around a table in a friendly fashion. I'd be pleased to attend a similar evening. The only problem I foresee is a shortage of god-defenders. Is there/are there any believers who would be willing to attend an evening of good-natured debate? I suspect that there would be several amongst us who might be up for a pint and a chat to discuss 'Is there a God?' but I'm not sure if anyone is prepared to put their faith up for discussion. Any takers, on either side? Edit: or all keyboard warriers?! I'm up for it if anybody else is.....especially if theists are willing to come along. I've already had some good natured discussions with Quisquose, Plekhanov, Suffragette and FairDooz. Just need a few theists now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaliRichard Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I've already met up with one theist from these forums, despite his assurances to the contrary he spent most of the time trying to convert me and the rest of it trying to find excuses for the holes in his evidence. I'm not really into trying to find out why people believe what they do, that's up to them. My interest lies in when they claim to have scientific evidence to back up that belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janie48 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I am searching for the " Is there Life after Death" thread, it seems to have dissapeared. Did someone off here say something terrible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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