Do you believe in God?

[harvey19]

Doh!

 

Evolution is demonstrably true.

 

The start point may be unknown, but this is irrelevant to it's existence.

 

I realise you are probably being flippant, but this doesn't make your statement any less stupid.

 

How can the start point be irrelevant it is the most important factor in the argument.

[harvey19]

Do you think that all life was created as it is?

Or do you think that early life was created, and has now evolved?

As stated many times I do not know but do not dismiss any posibility.

Posters who dismiss God use an argument that if he had created things they would be perfect.

If things including people evolved why weren't faults like disease eliminated in the process ?

[Chris_Sleeps]

If things including people evolved why weren't faults like disease eliminated in the process ?

Easy.

Because disease also evolves.

Secondly, evolution doesn't mean life is perfect. Life just has to pass on genetic material. It can cripple you, and rip your eyes out, and take away your ears, but if you can still procreate then that is all evolution is.

[six45ive]

How can the start point be irrelevant it is the most important factor in the argument.

 

Why is it? You don't have to know when the first round object was kicked by a human to know that football exists and that the game has evolved since somebody kicked a round object for the first time.

[harvey19]

Easy.

Because disease also evolves.

Secondly, evolution doesn't mean life is perfect. Life just has to pass on genetic material. It can cripple you, and rip your eyes out, and take away your ears, but if you can still procreate then that is all evolution is.

This can also be applied to the God theory so we can eliminate that argument.

[Chris_Sleeps]

This can also be applied to the God theory so we can eliminate that argument.

God cripples people and takes away their eyes?

 

PS. God Hypothesis. He isn't proven yet.

[harvey19]

Why is it? You don't have to know when the first round object was kicked by a human to know that football exists and that the game has evolved since somebody kicked a round object for the first time.

 

Without knowing it one can't discount God started it.

You can not discount something because you don't favour that reason.

[quisquose]

How can the start point be irrelevant it is the most important factor in the argument.

 

Knowing how something became is irrelevant to the existence of that thing. This is so basically simple that my flabber is ghasted at your ignorance of that fact.

 

Barleycorn was casting doubt on the existence of something by the failure of anybody to actually define it.

 

You are trying to cast doubt on the existence of something by the failure of anybody to explain how that thing, which exists, came about.

 

Strange logic indeed.

[harvey19]

 

PS. God Hypothesis. He isn't proven yet.

 

Agree with you 100%.

[harvey19]

Knowing how something became is irrelevant to the existence of that thing. This is so basically simple that my flabber is ghasted at your ignorance of that fact.

 

Barleycorn was casting doubt on the existence of something by the failure of anybody to actually define it.

 

You are trying to cast doubt on the existence of something by the failure of anybody to explain how that thing, which exists, came about.

 

Strange logic indeed.

 

Straight forward logic.

What is illogical is dismissing something without proof of your favoured alternative.

The starting point is what the God/evolution discussion boils down to the rest is really irrelevant.