USA Vs UK.. a war in 2012, who would win?

[Glamrocker]

You must be the big show around your neighbourhood at chucking out time

 

You never answered my first question Monty. How would the British military forces have deciisively won the war in Vietnam in the 1960s.?

 

What would they have done differently to bring this about and with half the population in the streets of Britain demonstrating against Britian's involvment in Vietnam and some MPs in Parliament siding with them?

 

Over to you genious

We wouldnt have lowered ourselves to fight a mob of possibly illiterate rice farmers so your question is therefore not open to a answer..its whats called British class and esteem which sadly your country is lacking on a grand scale;)

[Anarchon]

The conflict usually known as the 'War of 1812' one between the United States and Britain lasted from 1812 until 1814-15, and in which there was only one European belligerent, Britain, who didn't aquit themselves especially well. It ended in a messy stalemate.

 

Isn't it also the case that Britain didn't invest many resources into the 1812 war because it was still heavily engaged in the Napoleonic Wars and in particular the Peninsular War of 1807 - 1814?

[xenia]

Ah, a funny guy.

 

They were both after the US joined the war.

 

. . and I'm kinda sure we didn't win Kursk. The Russians may have, but the UK had nothing to do with it.

 

Oh, and we used rather a lot of american tanks at Alamein

 

We used Irish hats as well, The US had no input in either Kursk or Alemain in tactics, manpower or logistics, they may have been on the approved suppliers list for equipment but the Czechs supplied the Germans with a good deal of their firepower and I dont see anyone giving them credit.

[xenia]

Isn't it also the case that Britain didn't invest many resources into the 1812 war because it was still heavily engaged in the Napoleonic Wars and in particular the Peninsular War of 1807 - 1814?

 

Yes but we still won the war of 1812.

[xenia]

The 13 colonies were not considered that important at the time. The West Indies were far more important and resources were prioritised there.

[xenia]

Technically they could have easily won. All they had to do was a drop a couple of small low yield nukes on North Vietnam and it would have been over.

The fear of Chinese and Russian intervention and expanding into a global war put paid to that idea.

 

The size of armies and their military capability as a deadly force does not always decide the outcome when other factors are involved.

 

It took the British army a couple of decades to even deal with a small sized urban terrorist force,... the IRA and as for the Soviet army in Afgahnistan... well....

 

The British army and the Russians had a similar problem, American financed terrorists.

[ricgem2002]

How old is the poster that started this thread...five ?

looking at some of the threads he starts and answers he gives to others i think you could be right :hihi:

[Harleyman]

We wouldnt have lowered ourselves to fight a mob of possibly illiterate rice farmers so your question is therefore not open to a answer..its whats called British class and esteem which sadly your country is lacking on a grand scale;)

 

How about poor illiterate Irish bog farmers? The English did a number on them for a century or two

Where was the class there eh?

[Harleyman]

Yes but we still won the war of 1812.

 

Hardly so. There were two battles that decided the outcome, both American victories. The first was at Baltimore, the second New Orleans. That brought an end to the war and from then on relations between both countries became much better

[Harleyman]

The British army and the Russians had a similar problem, American financed terrorists.

 

Northern Ireland was a time bomb that had been waiting to go off for half a century. After the partition following Irish independence the northern part consisted of a majority of Irish Protestants, descended from the English and Scots brought over by Oliver Cromwell and a minority population of Irish Catholics.

The overwhelming grievance was the second rate citizen status of the Catholics which provided fodder for the IRA to exploit it.

 

From a historical point of view Ireland was England's tragedy. Over 10 million Irish left the country, many of them losing their land to English landlords or starving during the potato famine which the government in London cared little about.

Small wonder that the emigrants and their descendents felt nothing but bitterness and hatred.

Boston and New York were and still are heavily populated by the descendents of those immigrants and long memories are part of their heritage.

 

I dont condone the funding of IRA activities by such groups as NORAID and perhaps the government should have sent in the FBI to deal with it but as often happens the injustices of long ago sometimes come back to haunt the perpetrators.