xenia Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 More pink Champers anyone. Go on then, is it chilled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 I wonder if you could explain what you mean i can remember when it was very hard to get a mortgage "the £ was very strong" as is now to get a mortgage you have to have something like 20% deposit, and now the £ is one of the strongest currencies in the world. It has been suggested that the economic growth under the Labour government leading up to the crash was driven by the availability of cheap credit, instead of rising wages and production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puisseguin Posted April 22, 2012 Author Share Posted April 22, 2012 As you well know, Penguin, public spending was actually less as a proportion of GDP, under Labour, than it had been under the useless disaster that was Major. It was the bailout of the Bankers, which was fully supported by the Cons which ran up the budget deficit. Nice try though! As you well know, Wendy, public spending was nothing of the sort and Labour were running a budget deficit of up to £175,000,000,000 per year. The bailout of the Bankers, which cost around £50 billion can hardly be blamed for a debt of £1000 billion that Labour handed over. Nice lie though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidley Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 As you well know, Wendy, public spending was nothing of the sort and Labour were running a budget deficit of up to £175,000,000,000 per year. The bailout of the Bankers, which cost around £50 billion can hardly be blamed for a debt of £1000 billion that Labour handed over. Nice lie though! Have a read at this http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jan/09/responsible-capitalism-labour-david-cameron this bit may interest you ritain's deficit is now 8.4% of GDP. When Labour was elected in 1997 it was 3.4%. In that same year debt was 43% of GDP. It is now 68%, and will peak in 2014-15 at 78% of GDP. Combine that with flatlining growth under this government's failing policies, and continuing weak demand across the west and the implication is clear: we will be living in straitened times for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 It has been suggested that the economic growth under the Labour government leading up to the crash was driven by the availability of cheap credit, instead of rising wages and production. I would agree with this kidley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puisseguin Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 Have a read at this http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jan/09/responsible-capitalism-labour-david-cameron this bit may interest you ritain's deficit is now 8.4% of GDP. When Labour was elected in 1997 it was 3.4%. In that same year debt was 43% of GDP. It is now 68%, and will peak in 2014-15 at 78% of GDP. Combine that with flatlining growth under this government's failing policies, and continuing weak demand across the west and the implication is clear: we will be living in straitened times for years to come. So you have proved that over the course of the last Labour Government between 1997 and 2010 they ran up a massive spending deficit and massive debts that the current government is having to tackle. In 2010 Labour put in spending plans for the following few years that had overspends of up to £175,000,000,000 per year. You can't simply turn off the spending. You need to get a grip on the problem of what that money was being spent on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 So you have proved that over the course of the last Labour Government between 1997 and 2010 they ran up a massive spending deficit and massive debts that the current government is having to tackle. In 2010 Labour put in spending plans for the following few years that had overspends of up to £175,000,000,000 per year. You can't simply turn off the spending. You need to get a grip on the problem of what that money was being spent on. Goal post here, goal posts there ... goal posts wherever you want them. Even Osborne admitted telling lies about the state of the economy. Why do you have a personal vendetta against Livingstone anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puisseguin Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 Why do you have a personal vendetta against Livingstone anyway? It is because he is an odious self serving little worm. Why would you want to support a person such as that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riannon Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 They don't disagree with "free" health provision (it's not free, we pay for it), so how would that situation be hypocritical? The point why lefties are hypocritical for using private health care is that they vehemently argue against it. -- I agree. Having recently gone to an NHS doctor for some minor surgery I can't even get on a waiting list. They ring you when there is an available appointment to see a GP. If I went private I would be seen this afternoon. Going private is a way of jumping the queue. I believe you get what you pay for in this life and don't see a problem with folk who can afford it going private. If you tried to ban it folk would go abroad like they do to see a dentist. What makes Ken's case different is he claims to be a socialist, but is still prepared to climb over the rest of us to get to the front of the queue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 It is because he is an odious self serving little worm. Why would you want to support a person such as that? Aren't they all? Isn't everyone? Aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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