janie48 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Someone in another thread said You can live a perfectly egalitarian, unselfish and charitable life without bringing religion into it. Indeed you can, but I believe religion helped humanity reach this point, it civilised humanity...I know that seems a strange thing to say considering that many wars have been fought in the name of religion, but socially it put a caring, charitable dimension into the human race that we benefit from today...but we dont need it now, its served its purpose, we've grown out of it and can be egalitarian, unselfish and charitable on our own. You beat me to it.I was going to start another thread on this subject,because i didn't think there was enough of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 You beat me to it.I was going to start another thread on this subject,because i didn't think there was enough of them. Hahahaheheheh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hots on Posted April 25, 2012 Author Share Posted April 25, 2012 *laughs* *on floor .... aah .... oxygen ... ahh* Well done for quoting just that tiny segment of the post out of context Even assuming that the OP is true - which many will argue vociferously anyway - why would you attribute any of that credit to a religion that didn't exist until less than 2000 years ago? The ancient Greeks were the most civlized people we know of in ancient times, and they didn't know anything about Christ for the first half a millennium of their existence. Although the ancient Greeks were civilised people, people of more recent times that perhaps knew nothing of the Ancient Greeks had their natural base instincts curtailed, in other words, were civilised(weather they liked it or not ) in no small part, by religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Hope Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Someone in another thread said You can live a perfectly egalitarian, unselfish and charitable life without bringing religion into it. Indeed you can, but I believe religion helped humanity reach this point, it civilised humanity...I know that seems a strange thing to say considering that many wars have been fought in the name of religion, but socially it put a caring, charitable dimension into the human race that we benefit from today...but we dont need it now, its served its purpose, we've grown out of it and can be egalitarian, unselfish and charitable on our own. Agreed, the Christian religion saved the Bounty Mutineers from all but wiping themselves out on Pitcairn Island. I still believe that it is good for many people such as the indigenous tribes of South America. The Jim Elliot story and the documentary/movie 'Beyond the Gates of Splendor' is a good example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Someone in another thread said You can live a perfectly egalitarian, unselfish and charitable life without bringing religion into it. Indeed you can, but I believe religion helped humanity reach this point, it civilised humanity...I know that seems a strange thing to say considering that many wars have been fought in the name of religion, but socially it put a caring, charitable dimension into the human race that we benefit from today...but we dont need it now, its served its purpose, we've grown out of it and can be egalitarian, unselfish and charitable on our own. Do we need Islam or Bhuddism or is it just Christianity that's become obsolete in your "enlightened opinion" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwhine Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Well done for quoting just that tiny segment of the post out of context How was that out of context? It seems a perfectly reasonable response to a ridiculous statement, but I'm open to persuasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Someone in another thread said You can live a perfectly egalitarian, unselfish and charitable life without bringing religion into it. Indeed you can, but I believe religion helped humanity reach this point, it civilised humanity...I know that seems a strange thing to say considering that many wars have been fought in the name of religion, but socially it put a caring, charitable dimension into the human race that we benefit from today...but we dont need it now, its served its purpose, we've grown out of it and can be egalitarian, unselfish and charitable on our own. I'm not sure they have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 I'm not sure they have Huge numbers of wars have been fought in the name of religion, that's an unarguable truth. It is highly likely, though, that if religion had not existed those wars would still have been fought, but in the name of something else. Claiming that religion is the cause of wars is much trickier a proposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janie48 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 I'm open to persuasion. What a joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Huge numbers of wars have been fought in the name of religion, that's an unarguable truth. It is highly likely, though, that if religion had not existed those wars would still have been fought, but in the name of something else. Claiming that religion is the cause of wars is much trickier a proposition. I'm sorry but I can't think of one, care to name one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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