tinfoilhat Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Big and strong? Proving you wrong does not make me feel big and strong as it was so easy to do. You are delusional. Ah a bully ? You still haven't got anywhere near to finding one single workers right that has been eroded. Lots of bluster about jobs but nothing concrete. Now you're resulting to insults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 The scum tories are actively campaigning in Europe to scrap workers rights. Are you admiting that it's Europe that sorts out employment laws ? I dont think we have Tory European government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Insults? Calling someone delusional who put forward a valid argument that you may or may not agree with I think is an insult. Let's try it out. You are delusional if you think one Tory mep has any influence on employment law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabitter Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 when tinfoilhat denied being a tory am sure i heard a **** crow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 If it was his it would have only been a very small one. I don't vote Tory. I don't keep chickens either. I was trying to find out if the coalition government have taken away employment rights. Not find out if they've cut pensions. Not to find out out if they've cut jobs. Have they cut employment rights. I don't know. You clearly don't. I wish I'd googled it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Nurses up North being asked to take a massive pay cut for another. Have the nurse been asked yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansheff Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 what about employers right???? we have been tied up in red tape for too many years , paying over the odds for workers due to NMW, holiday pay etc etc, wages should be set by market force not legislation !! no wonder there is mass unemployment, companies cant afford to hire more and be competitive as the legislation and the burden of these rights reduces the company profits and inward investment!! no wonder we reduce hours and put people on short time and any company that doesnt have zero hour contracts for staff must have a slate missing! Are you saying there should be no NMW? The Govt are telling people they need to save for their retirement and take out pensions. I would imagine there are not many can do that on the NMW, people on more than the NMW are struggling to keep their finances in check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab6262 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Are you saying there should be no NMW? The Govt are telling people they need to save for their retirement and take out pensions. I would imagine there are not many can do that on the NMW, people on more than the NMW are struggling to keep their finances in check. exactly ! there should be no minimum wage, the rate would set itself by market forces, the self employed in the uk & all over the world do that anyway, if an employer pays peanuts he gets monkeys, if he wants the job doing well he pays according to skills. re the pensions yes i agree its hard for all right now, me included! making sure bills and staff get paid, but people need to realise there is no easy solution to all this and this idea of everyone is entitled to the same is crazy, the real world is some "have" and some "have not"...its life! prehaps if some people in the last 15 or so years had saved for penisons instead of buying houses & other things on credit they couldnt afford and relying on house prices to keep rising to fund their borrowings and pension pot?? then maybe we would be in a better position but banging on about workers rights is not helping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 exactly ! there should be no minimum wage, the rate would set itself by market forces, the self employed in the uk & all over the world do that anyway, if an employer pays peanuts he gets monkeys, if he wants the job doing well he pays according to skills. re the pensions yes i agree its hard for all right now, me included! making sure bills and staff get paid, but people need to realise there is no easy solution to all this and this idea of everyone is entitled to the same is crazy, the real world is some "have" and some "have not"...its life! prehaps if some people in the last 15 or so years had saved for penisons instead of buying houses & other things on credit they couldnt afford and relying on house prices to keep rising to fund their borrowings and pension pot?? then maybe we would be in a better position but banging on about workers rights is not helping. I think you just waffled on and on without thinking or understanding anything you wrote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab6262 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 I think you just waffled on and on without thinking or understanding anything you wrote oh ok then:rolleyes: enlighten us ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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