sheff1johnny Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Has this MP breached the disabillity discrination act. Yes? No? Iain Duncan Smith was branded “ignorant and heartless” yesterday after saying that disabled Remploy workers were “not doing any work... just making cups of coffee”. The Work and Pensions Secretary wants to shut 36 specialist factories across the country – axing 1,518 jobs – to save money and get more people into “proper jobs”. But Labour’s Liam Byrne called his remarks “utterly unacceptable”. The Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary said: “You should issue a written apology to everyone involved with Remploy, and to the many more people you have offended with your ignorant, heartless and foolish comments.” Remploy worker Phil Brannan, 60, from Glasgow, said: “The man is nothing but a bully-boy moron. He’s a bully boy because he is determined for ideological reasons to push these closures through, and a moron because his mind will never be open enough to assess the good that Remploy does.” But a Government spokesman said yesterday the best way to help *disabled people into work was “not to hide them away in factories” and “the decision was not taken lightly”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 In what way is IDS discriminating? He's not their employer. And do Remploy workers actually 'work' in any real, economic sense? I understood that their factories were effectively funded by taxpayers. Surely the spokesman in right in saying that disabled people should not be hidden away but should- if possible- work amongst the general population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 No. His comments might be nasty, but they are only comments. He might be guilty of a public order offence - if he said them outside of Parliament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hots on Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Has this MP breached the disabillity discrination act. Yes? No? Iain Duncan Smith was branded “ignorant and heartless” yesterday after saying that disabled Remploy workers were “not doing any work... just making cups of coffee”. I think it was a critisism of Remploy rather than the disabled workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheff1johnny Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 He should at least be made to apoligise for his nasty comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlittlepup Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Well whatever he's done he should only have the punishment as the Remploy worker who described him as a 'moron' which is patently discriminatory hate speech. If we're going to be going down the punish everybody for saying anything not remotely PC that is. :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 http://www.remploy.co.uk/_assets/downloads/pdfs/analysis-of-remploy-businesses.pdf That's the auditors report. Some units (which are being kept open) doing very nicely. The rest makes depressing reading and clearly the closures were needed as many units were not even vaguely approaching playing at being businesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bludragonfly Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 I've been around the Sheffield factory and the people there were certainly working - making lots of chairs and tables from tiny ones for use in Nursery Schools up to adult sized Iain Duncan Smith's comments are offensive and he should apologise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hots on Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 I've been around the Sheffield factory and the people there were certainly working - making lots of chairs and tables from tiny ones for use in Nursery Schools up to adult sized Iain Duncan Smith's comments are offensive and he should apologise I really dont think he was having a go at disabled people, he was critisizing Remploy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 IDS has not breached any part of any act and as for the OP's suggestion that he should apologise 'for his nasty comments' Really?? I think Ed Milliband is an idiotic,self centered Labour toff who does'nt give a toss about the 'working class'. Do you want me to apologise for writing that? You will be waiting for a long time. Politicians have as much right as you or I to express an opinion but because you do not agree with what IDS said you think he's guilty of a crime. If you read the article properly he was criticising Remploy NOT the employees and Andy Gardener's link shows gross financial mismanagement with taxpayers money. Yes,1400+ people will up the employment figures but you have fallen into the Labour party's trap of believing that everyone should have a job at any costs, this is erroneous and dishonest propaganda. If taxpayers money is used to fund an enterprise then by the same token taxpayers are entitled to see a return on the investment,preferably with added interest. (Please don't hijack this thread with comments about RBS et al That is a separate thread for another time) For your information the Disability Discrimination Act was replaced by the Equality Act 2010. http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/disabledpeople/rightsandobligations/disabilityrights/dg_4001068 Read,study and comprehend. Then post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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