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And I've moved the goalposts how? My original argument is that rich french people will leave france if a 75% tax rate is introduced and many will come to london. My current argument is that rich french people will leave france if a 75% tax rate is introduced and many will come to london. Anyone see any movement there?

 

The 75% rate is after earning EU1million. How many people do you think that will affect?

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The 75% rate is after earning EU1million. How many people do you think that will affect?

 

In most western countries the top 1% of earners pay around 35-40% of the tax. That's certainly the case in the UK and the USA. I don't imagine that things will be any different in France.

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Keynes did advocate government borrowing in hard times to stimulatre the economy as you describe. However, he also advocated paying back the borrowings in the good times. Unfortunately for UK plc Gordon, best man for the job, Brown decided not only to borrow during the good times but also to borrow to prop up his electoral support when things went bad. That's why there is no way to borrow more to invest in useful infrastructure. At the end of the good times the debts were already crippling. That's not what Keynes envisaged at all.

 

Hammer. Nail. Head.

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Keynes did advocate government borrowing in hard times to stimulatre the economy as you describe. However, he also advocated paying back the borrowings in the good times. Unfortunately for UK plc Gordon, best man for the job, Brown decided not only to borrow during the good times but also to borrow to prop up his electoral support when things went bad. That's why there is no way to borrow more to invest in useful infrastructure. At the end of the good times the debts were already crippling. That's not what Keynes envisaged at all.

 

That must be why borrowing is up for both years of this government.

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That must be why borrowing is up for both years of this government.

 

Funnily enough until the cuts are actually implemented (april this year) they don't have an effect on the budget. So the first two sets of figures are a hangover from Mad Broon's everything must go waste-a-thon.

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Funnily enough until the cuts are actually implemented (april this year) they don't have an effect on the budget. So the first two sets of figures are a hangover from Mad Broon's everything must go waste-a-thon.

 

Once upon a time there were three bears.............:roll:

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That must be why borrowing is up for both years of this government.

 

You really never get tired of being wrong do you?

 

Borrowing 2009/2010 (Labour) = £164bn

 

Borrowing 2011/2012 (ConDem) - £126bn

 

You do the maths. Oh wait, sorry I forgot........................ a Sheffield education.

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You really never get tired of being wrong do you?

 

Borrowing 2009/2010 (Labour) = £164bn

 

Borrowing 2011/2012 (ConDem) - £126bn

 

You do the maths. Oh wait, sorry I forgot........................ a Sheffield education.

 

Classic :hihi::hihi::hihi:

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You really never get tired of being wrong do you?

 

Borrowing 2009/2010 (Labour) = £164bn

 

Borrowing 2011/2012 (ConDem) - £126bn

 

You do the maths. Oh wait, sorry I forgot........................ a Sheffield education.

 

Classic rubbish!:hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi:

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This is a handy graphic at the Guardian. It shows the extent of deficits (or surpluses) since 1979, but crucially EXCLUDING FINANCIAL INTERVENTIONS. You can see how high it was by 2009, and how it starts to fall under the coalition.

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/oct/18/deficit-debt-government-borrowing-data#zoomed-picture

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/oct/18/deficit-debt-government-borrowing-data#

 

Osborne relief as UK deficit beats target - but higher March borrowing points to tougher times ahead

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