Jim Graham Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 A place that is a shipping container? Build without modern H&S or building regs? Sounds slum like. Try opening your mind and closing your mouth: http://weburbanist.com/2008/05/26/cargo-container-homes-and-offices/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Nobody is (artificially) restricting supply. You mean they are blatantly restricting supply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fake Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Once you have people in accomodation the price of houses will stabilise if not fall. It could be done tomorrow, but it won't because there are far too many vested interests in keeping housing expensive. I agree. The problem is banks, property companies and Governments just don't want cheap housing. Having expensive housing means greater profits for the bankers and governments. It also ties workers into a very high debt under the banner of investment that will last on average around 25 years. Its a social experiment that started mainly under Maggie which has the effect of suppressing home owners. People who now own their properties with a large mortgage are less likely to go on strike or complain about work as their home is now at risk. People will now accept pay cuts in order to keep their homes running. In the 70's we had hardship, very little home ownership by the workers and mass strikes. Now we have greater worker home ownership and hardly any strikes despite the current hardship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 In the 70's we had hardship, very little home ownership by the workers and mass strikes.. Home ownership was 51% in 1971 http://www.mortgageguideuk.co.uk/blog/uk-housing-market/home-ownership-rates-uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Try opening your mind and closing your mouth: http://weburbanist.com/2008/05/26/cargo-container-homes-and-offices/ Looks like a gimmick, don't open your mind so much your brain falls out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 You mean they are blatantly restricting supply? No, I mean that if there is a shortage, then it isn't because someone has taken a decision to restrict the supply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnese Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 I work in construction and there are a couple of things that need to be fixed to get the housing market moving again. The big problem is that "affordable housing" is not affordable. It still costs the earth. But it needn't. One thing holding back housing are the absurd rules and regulations. Layer upon layer of pointless, mindless bureaucracy makes housing too expensive to build. Land is too expensive because of too many limitations on where you can build. All the ludicrous requirements (and Sheffield always go to the max on these) for sustainability and eco friendliness and all the other garbage green requirements also add to the cost. On top of that the building trade is lumbered with huge bureaucracy over H&S, CDM, CSCS etc etc. It all adds up to make housing too expensive. Somebody needs to cut through the crap and allow timber frame buildings, prefabs, converted sea containers and anything else that will shelter human life to be put up cheaply and quickly. Once you have people in accomodation the price of houses will stabilise if not fall. It could be done tomorrow, but it won't because there are far too many vested interests in keeping housing expensive. The construction industry will be in the doldrums as long as we have a tory government in power. You don't need to be a professor to work that one out. Anyone who works in construction who votes tory is as nutty as a turkey who votes for Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 The construction industry will be in the doldrums as long as we have a tory government in power. You don't need to be a professor to work that one out. Anyone who works in construction who votes tory is as nutty as a turkey who votes for Christmas. That's obvious because the housing market went into crisis with a) Conservatives b) Labour in power at the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnese Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 That's obvious because the housing market went into crisis with a) Conservatives b) Labour in power at the time? That all depends upon your interpretation of a crisis. You are right however. The Thatcher years did force a housing crisis that is still with us by selling off council houses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chem1st Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 I agree. The problem is banks, property companies and Governments just don't want cheap housing. And landowners, in particular it is the landowners, politics is merely the abuse of the land relative to the communal good. Having expensive housing means greater profits for the bankers and governments. It also ties workers into a very high debt under the banner of investment that will last on average around 25 years. Its a social experiment that started mainly under Maggie which has the effect of suppressing home owners. People who now own their properties with a large mortgage are less likely to go on strike or complain about work as their home is now at risk. People will now accept pay cuts in order to keep their homes running. Aye. In the 70's we had hardship, very little home ownership by the workers and mass strikes. Now we have greater worker home ownership and hardly any strikes despite the current hardship. People are too scared to strike because they would lose their mortgaged debt slavery housing. The next generation (my generation) are unemployed. And as we increase in size the revolution cometh, there will be blood on the streets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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