xenia Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 Maybe you ought to practice what you preach I am trying to stay on topic Mecky, dont tempt me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenia Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 Well of course it does that wasn't my point at all. Those who do pull their weight will be worse off because they'll be easier to get rid of. Then there's the point that who actually says someone is pulling their weight? People who are pulling their weight will be got rid of, for whatever reason, using this as an excuse... You're not thinking it through.... Those who are pulling thier weight should have nothing to fear from their employer, nor do we have anything to gain by supporting a bent union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenia Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 Hi Xenia, I have said the same thing @ least 3-4 times already on this thread, maybe people are taking notice Perfectly clear bb, Clegg said it, couldnt blame him, Brown was a very poor PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bypassblade Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 Perfectly clear bb, Clegg said it, couldnt blame him, Brown was a very poor PM. Can't believe I'm going to do this lol, I agree love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Graham Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 Genuine question..why did the Liberals reject a coalition with Labour in 2010? Was it because they were even further apart than the Tory's and Liberals..? As I understand it Labour weren't prepared to pay the LibDem's price for a coalition. That would have included electoral reform, cabinet seats and Brown stepping down just for starters. The numbers didn't stack up that well either. I don't think Labour + LibDem added up to a majority anyway. Clegg and his men shuffled between Labour and Conservative trying to get the best deal they could. Brown got fed up and resigned the government to try and force the issue but Cameron gave Cleggy everything he wanted. If Gordon, best man for the job, Brown had been more savvy, more flexible and less arrogant Labour might have been in coalition government. But it would only have lasted until the madman Brown started throwing staplers, pens and phones at Clegg when he didn't get his own way. Labour propagandists are desperate to make out that a coalition isn't a proper government but they have them all over Europe, including Germany, and they work fine. Socialists only understand the concept of total and unquestionable state control. They can't comprehend the notion of policy by discussion, compromise and agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Sidney Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 Why would a company get rid of someone who is working well if there are others there that are taking the p*** ? There might be somebody else who they want, somebody better or the next door neighbours daughter or whoever.....Its the threat of being able to be got rid off easily that will ensure everybody puts up with a little more dodgy dealings from dodgy employers. It may ba a surprise to you, but they do exist.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenia Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 Can't believe I'm going to do this lol, I agree love I feel your pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Jay Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 When was the last decent labour leader? John Smith. Brilliant man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sibon Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 The agreement between Labour and the Liberals was called the LibLab Pact. It's not often you're wrong but you're wrong again. I await your definition of coalition. You are really beginning to grow on me. I like a trier. There isn't a serious political commentator in the world who would consider the 1977 Lib Lab pact to be a Coalition Government. Here you go, try playing spot the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Graham Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 You really beginning to grow on me. I like a trier. There isn't a serious political commentator in the world who would consider the 1977 Lib Lab pact to be a Coalition Government. Here you go, try playing spot the difference. Both documents start by saying "we are going to work together". As far as I'm concerned that's coalition politics. You can split hairs all you like, and you will, but the two are the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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