evildrneil Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 OK so you have two parties who espouse relatively simplistic ideologies. One says the state is bad everyone must stand on their own two feet whether they can or not and produces the odd disaster like (don't) care in the community and the poll tax. The other says the state is good and everyone must come under it's bountiful gaze whether they need to or not oh and they produce the odd disaster like ATOS testing, charging for uni places after pushing them for people for whom they are utterly inappropriate and of course a financial hole of epic proportions. One is the nasty party the other the clueless, patronising paternalistic party. They seem to be at each other's throats; but are they really symbiotic? Would the Conservatives ever be returned to power if it wasn't for the terrible political and financial mismanagement of a preceding Labour government? Would Labour ever be returned to power if not for the swinging cuts and economic corrections that needs to be undertaken by a Conservative government after a Labour fiasco leading to devastating social effects? Are they in fact both parasites on the stupidity of the mass of insensate, tribal voters who desire simple answers to complex questions? Could one exist without the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vague_Boy Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Labour and Conservative - do they need each other? They are each other. Policies opposed by one in opposition are then implemented by them when they get in power. Just look at The Boy Cameron and Cleggies opposition to the surveillance state. Those "principles" didn't survive their assumption of government. In the run up the the last election, Labour were competing with the other parties as to how much cutting they would do. Now the odious Ed Balls is saying that the cuts are a bad idea. Yet way back in the mists of time (2009 to be precise), the younger Balls was the first Labour minister to start cutting. Education spending could be cut by £2bn by axing thousands of senior staff and "discipline" over pay, the schools secretary for England has indicated. Ed Balls, the first minister to suggest possible cost-cutting moves LINK (I apologise for confusing the many Sheffield Forum members whose memories seem to have reset themselves en masse on 6 April 2010. Please ignore my true facts.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereolab Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 You may also remember that in 2007 George Osborne said he would match Labour spending plans (which he now moronically blames for the recession) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6975536.stm 'Mr Osborne said government spending under the Conservatives would rise from £615bn next year to £674bn in 2010/11.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Conservatives do not need anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Labour and Conservative - do they need each other? They are each other. Yes. The LibLabCon party only appears to be three separate entities, but the policies are overlapping and mostly indistinguishable- e.g. support for: a. UK's membership of the EU farce; b. unlimited immigration, inc. Europeans; c. nonsense environmentalism; d. lashing out taxpayers' money on unmerited gifts to other countries' dictators [why not just send it direct to their Swiss bank accounts?]; e. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerrangaroo Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Yes. The LibLabCon party only appears to be three separate entities, but the policies are overlapping and mostly indisguishable- e.g. support for: a. UK's membership of the EU farce; b. unlimited immigration, inc. Europeans; c. nonsense environmentalism; d. lashing out taxpayers' money on unmerited gifts to other countries' dictators [why not just send it direct to their Swiss bank accounts?]; e. etc. I think this should be a real word i like it, it conjurs up images of indestructable hamsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I think this should be a real word i like it, it conjurs up images of indestructable hamsters. Yes, guilty as charged and biter bit; well spotted. I've put the 'tin' in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerrangaroo Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Yes, guilty as charged and biter bit; well spotted. I've put the 'tin' in! Don't get me wrong though Mr Shaw it weren't a knock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoatwobbler Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I would say that they do need each other to oppose at the moment. However, I am also of the view that this is due to none of the 3 main parties having owt positive to say about themselves. Not a good situation. :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Bourne Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 However, I am also of the view that this is due to none of the 3 main parties having owt positive to say about themselves. Not a good situation. :-( So they're expending effort slagging each other off instead? It's not healthy for Democracy, when we only vote for one party because the alternatives are worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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