Jim Graham Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 What a stupid, ridiculous view. A surgeon saved my life. A consultant and an oncologist continue to look after me. Last week I had a bit more surgery, only minor, but the surgeon wasn't playing golf. If such people left the NHS then we would be in trouble. If you yourself have private medical insurance Mr Graham you can rest assured it has a limit on how much can be spent on you......after which you get transferred to the NHS. You have a strange attitude Mr Graham, some people may even find it offensive..........I just think you have a chip on your shoulder. What about the lady who starved to death in the Northern General? All the highly paid and well trained doctors in the hospital failed to save her life and she only needed feeding. There are hundreds if not thousands of similar cases all over the country. I've been an advisor to NICE and met lots of consultants and even some very eminent professors. Most of the consultants I met kept their golf clubs in the boot of their cars just in case. Undoubtedly some can do great things for some people. I met one consultant who can take somebody's pelvis out and pass it through a machine and then put it back in again. But, we have to stop buying the idea that all doctors are miracle workers. They aren't. They are doing the job we pay them very well to do. There is no conscription into the medical services and too many of them are not up to the job as we see every day. If doctors are so brilliant why is the NHS negligence bill £15bn and rising by £1.5bn a year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curriechick Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Why? Do doctors become senile at 68? The certainly don't. When I first worked as a Medical Secretary in the early 80's I worked in general practice and one of the GP's was almost 70 when I started and still working there on a part time basis when I left 5 years later. She was far from senile, she was brilliant,as well as working part time in the practice she did voluntary work and Open University Degrees, swam twice a week and she had brought up her family single handed as she was widowed at a very early age. Apart from all that she was a lovely person who had time for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 I wonder if they will form picket lines ? Might not need to, the sick won't put up much of a fight. I hope they do though, and I'll kick in a few quid in their inevitable collection buckets. I mean how is anyone supposed to survive on a £53k a year pension anyway ? Give em a break I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Graham Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 The certainly don't. When I first worked as a Medical Secretary in the early 80's I worked in general practice and one of the GP's was almost 70 when I started and still working there on a part time basis when I left 5 years later. She was far from senile, she was brilliant,as well as working part time in the practice she did voluntary work and Open University Degrees, swam twice a week and she had brought up her family single handed as she was widowed at a very early age. Apart from all that she was a lovely person who had time for everyone. Exactly, Doctors are likely to be some of the people who live longest. I believe average age for mere mortals is now 82 so retiring at 68 gives them 14 years to enjoy their huge pensions and let's not forget the £90k lump sum they also get. I suspect average life span for doctors is a lot more than 82. Does anyone know how much you have to put into a pot to get a £60k pension and a £90k lump sum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeX Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Doctors are not happy with their £56,000pa tax free pension are they, well they can go *******. If I need a doctor when they are on strike I will be going to AE as they charge back to the practice (just over £100) for each visitm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tradescanthia Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 What about the lady who starved to death in the Northern General? All the highly paid and well trained doctors in the hospital failed to save her life and she only needed feeding. There are hundreds if not thousands of similar cases all over the country. I've been an advisor to NICE and met lots of consultants and even some very eminent professors. Most of the consultants I met kept their golf clubs in the boot of their cars just in case. Undoubtedly some can do great things for some people. I met one consultant who can take somebody's pelvis out and pass it through a machine and then put it back in again. But, we have to stop buying the idea that all doctors are miracle workers. They aren't. They are doing the job we pay them very well to do. There is no conscription into the medical services and too many of them are not up to the job as we see every day. If doctors are so brilliant why is the NHS negligence bill £15bn and rising by £1.5bn a year? Is that true about the pelvis ?? I remember the NGH 'starvation case', I dont recall the outcome though. 'Reckon I have been lucky to get medics who do care and do a good job. Only problems I have had are with the GP's. When you want a referral to a specialist for something painfull but not life threatening then 'feet get dragged', perhaps the budget has an influence ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Graham Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Is that true about the pelvis ?? I remember the NGH 'starvation case', I dont recall the outcome though. 'Reckon I have been lucky to get medics who do care and do a good job. Only problems I have had are with the GP's. When you want a referral to a specialist for something painfull but not life threatening then 'feet get dragged', perhaps the budget has an influence ?? And that, folks, is exactly what is wrong with the NHS. You are now considered lucky to survive a trip to hospital. That is a measure of just how bad things are. 25,000 people a year die from blood clots that they didn't have when they went into hospital. It is mostly preventable but many hospitals don't try very hard. Then there are all the bugs you can catch before they start starving you. Hospitals have become very dangerous places to be ill. And yet there are people out there who will defend the NHS to their last breath. Which could be sooner than they think should they fall ill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 The certainly don't. When I first worked as a Medical Secretary in the early 80's I worked in general practice and one of the GP's was almost 70 when I started and still working there on a part time basis when I left 5 years later. She was far from senile, she was brilliant,as well as working part time in the practice she did voluntary work and Open University Degrees, swam twice a week and she had brought up her family single handed as she was widowed at a very early age. Apart from all that she was a lovely person who had time for everyone. I had a large cyst removed form my chest by a doctor who looked over 70. It didnt even leave a scar and then it's a fact that experience goes with age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjrs201 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Has anone been affected by the GP & Doctors Industrial Day of Action this Thursday? ie. Had a doctors appointment or surgery cancelled or postponed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Jay Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I understand that most doctors haven't voted to strike at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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