Internet porn restrictions

[llamatron]

it's blocked unless you explicitly ask for it to be unblocked.

 

That sounds like blocking to me.

 

It isn't a fail safe either, so they'd have to make it clear that it would only block 'some' content and wasn't an alternative to parental supervision.

 

its not blocking it at all. It just requires you to ask for it in much the same way you are not blocked from having the internet just because you have to ask to get it.

[llamatron]

There are reasons ISPs don't offer a "content-restricted" account:

 

- It would be more expensive to run,

- very few people would buy it,

- it would open them up to legal action when it inevitably failed.

 

make it compulsory for them to offer it and the cost becomes irrelevant-they just have to pay for it.

 

you wouldn't have to pay for restricted access that would be odd.

 

the nature of the internet would mean it would sometimes fail. Make that clear and again that isn't a problem. You would just need a disclaimer.

[splodgeyAl]

make it compulsory for them to offer it and the cost becomes irrelevant-they just have to pay for it.

 

you wouldn't have to pay for restricted access that would be odd.

 

the nature of the internet would mean it would sometimes fail. Make that clear and again that isn't a problem. You would just need a disclaimer.

Is making something that wont work; is expensive to run; and would annoy most of your customers, compulsory really the best way to proceed?

[llamatron]

Is making something that wont work; is expensive to run; and would annoy most of your customers, compulsory really the best way to proceed?

 

how do you know it would annoy most people? It would not bother me in the slightest. I would just tick the box:loopy:

[splodgeyAl]

how do you know it would annoy most people? It would not bother me in the slightest. I would just tick the box:loopy:

Because I have worked in the industry. Marketing types bring this up all the time and ignore the techies telling them it's next to impossible. They have always shut up tho, once they ask the customers' opinions, so I assume they are less than favourable.

[splodgeyAl]

It would make the best solution be "block online content, either through your ISP (which is what is being suggested anyway) or through a software based-content blocker".

 

Basically what we're arguing about is who the burden of activating/deactivating an adult-content blocking service.

 

I think the best solution would be to make all ISPs offer this as a service which is deactivated by default, with concerned parents activating it. Simples, no?

 

What you are proposing is that ISPs provide this service activated by default, with anyone who wants to view adult content having to deactivate it.

 

I definitely think the burden should be on the parents. Why should anyone else suffer?

 

And how many people would want to be on a database of internet users who like to look at porn?

Pretty much anyone who does watch / download porn from the internet is already in such a database, whether they know it or not

[Cyclone]

its not blocking it at all. It just requires you to ask for it in much the same way you are not blocked from having the internet just because you have to ask to get it.

 

If I go to a url right now and it isn't served, then it is blocked.

The fact that I can have the block removed by making a phone call doesn't alter the fact that it would, right now, be blocked.

[Cyclone]

Pretty much anyone who does watch / download porn from the internet is already in such a database, whether they know it or not

 

There's a big difference between an entry on an unofficial list somewhere (not that I believe there is such an entry), and you having explicitly told your ISP you want to be able to access porn.

 

I can imagine it being spun in court when someone is on an unrelated charge. "Do you deny Mr Splodge, that you have explicitly requested your ISP to remove the porn filter on your account? Presumably ladies and gentleman of the jury because he likes looking at filth and so is clearly guilty of this unrelated crime."

[splodgeyAl]

There's a big difference between an entry on an unofficial list somewhere (not that I believe there is such an entry), and you having explicitly told your ISP you want to be able to access porn.

 

I can imagine it being spun in court when someone is on an unrelated charge. "Do you deny Mr Splodge, that you have explicitly requested your ISP to remove the porn filter on your account? Presumably ladies and gentleman of the jury because he likes looking at filth and so is clearly guilty of this unrelated crime."

If there was no list of which IP address accessed which URL and when; along with a list of which IP address is assigned to which customer's account at a given time, how would an ISP respond to a RIPA request?

[RootsBooster]

I can imagine it being spun in court when someone is on an unrelated charge. "Do you deny Mr Splodge, that you have explicitly requested your ISP to remove the porn filter on your account? Presumably ladies and gentleman of the jury because he likes looking at filth and so is clearly guilty of this unrelated crime."

 

Personally I'd be more for an adult content filter, rather than just porn, as much as I don't want my 5 year old son having access to porn, I don't want him having access to violence, swearing or horror.