onewheeldave Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 More than wrong, probably the least educated thing so far, a dogs weight alone doesn't account for a % of danger. My staffy has a pound for pound ratio far more than an alsation or boxer (two other 'freindly' breeds) but if I was going to be attacked by one I would hope it was a staffy. I've been 'attacked' (in a friendly manner) by all three and I can assure you if an alsation or boxer took umbridge with me it would be far harder to stop them than a staffy. Really? So how come people Staffys were/are used for dog fighting? Why for example, if Alsations are so much better at fighting, didn't someone clear up in the dog-fighting game by using an alsation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaliRichard Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Any adult who has a breed like a staffy and has kids is a fool,its asking for trouble,some owners just dont have the brains to work out whats safe and whats not. Yet many parents hire baby sitters they have never met before. As I said earlier, I would trust my staffy with my children more than a stranger any day of the week. I mean, look at him Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza58 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 But this aspect is highly relevant! We all know that, for example, Yorkshire Terriers can be very aggressive and liable to bite. It's true that they are less likely to be reported for biting than a Staffy or Rotweiler would be, but that's cos a Yorkshire Terrier is unlikely to do any major harm, however aggressive they are. Whereas a Staffy (for example) displaying a similar level of aggression, will, in all likelihood, leave the person dead or maimed. These dogs are bred to fight- over many generations of careful breeding, their teeth, jaws, musculature and attitude have beem moulded into those characteristics which make them excell at the task of ripping other animals into submission. We all know that other breeds (e.g. little terriors) are just as likely to be ill-trained/prone to aggression- but, the key point is that if they attack a child, it will probably come out with some degree of bite wounds and the accompanying emotional trauma: in contrast, if atacked by a fighting dog, the child can easily end up with no face, maimed, or dead. You do talk a lot of sense,however i will pick you up one one point,they were bred to fight i agree,however that aggresion has been bred out of them over many years,trouble is those who want to act the tough guy do there utmost to re.awaken that trait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaliRichard Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Really? So how come people Staffys were/are used for dog fighting? Why for example, if Alsations are so much better at fighting, didn't someone clear up in the dog-fighting game by using an alsation? I don't have the mind of a dog owner who encourages fighting so I can't answer that. What I can say for certain is if an alsation attacked me I would find it much harder to defend myself than if a staffy did, and I have been a fighter myself, so this is a subject I can speak about with absolute assurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewheeldave Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I don't have the mind of a dog owner who encourages fighting so I can't answer that. What I can say for certain is if an alsation attacked me I would find it much harder to defend myself than if a staffy did, and I have been a fighter myself, so this is a subject I can speak about with absolute assurance. I'm guessing when you were a fighter, you were up against humans, not dogs? If so, to be blunt, you're in no position to speak with any level of assurance on the issue of being in a fight with a dog. Out of interest though, just what is it about alsations that makes you so certain that you would do better against a dog bred for fighting (e.g. a staffy)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewheeldave Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Originally Posted by onewheeldave View Post Really? So how come people Staffys were/are used for dog fighting? Why for example, if Alsations are so much better at fighting, didn't someone clear up in the dog-fighting game by using an alsation? I don't have the mind of a dog owner who encourages fighting so I can't answer that. What I can say for certain is if an alsation attacked me I would find it much harder to defend myself than if a staffy did, and I have been a fighter myself, so this is a subject I can speak about with absolute assurance. Well I don't have the mind of a dog owner who encourages fighting- but, I'm prepared to offer an attempt at an answer I'm guessing it's cos if you put an alsation up against a breed of dog genetically designed to fight, it will likely end up dead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Talker Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Yet many parents hire baby sitters they have never met before. As I said earlier, I would trust my staffy with my children more than a stranger any day of the week. I mean, look at him Kevin That's one vicious-looking amminal, pali... lol I love staffies, I've had three in the past, and my dad had a Labrador-Staff cross, who was a lovely, friendly "people-dog". I was bitten in the face by a Jack-Russell/ corgi cross as a kid, (it was a vile dog, never controlled, and permitted to roam around the streets where we lived,) I still have the scar from it. That's not stopped me and my family from rescuing four Jacks, one of which I currently own, (well one of which who owns ME!) It's all about the Deed, and not the breed. Any dog can "turn" if it's owned by an idiot, or if it's not socialised properly. (or is around children who aren't "dog-socialised") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leah-Lacie Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 If we're having a vicious looking dog competition, my dog will win http://i49.tinypic.com/2lcms0h.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza58 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 If we're having a vicious looking dog competition, my dog will win http://i49.tinypic.com/2lcms0h.jpg :hihi: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaliRichard Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I'm guessing when you were a fighter, you were up against humans, not dogs? If so, to be blunt, you're in no position to speak with any level of assurance on the issue of being in a fight with a dog. Out of interest though, just what is it about alsations that makes you so certain that you would do better against a dog bred for fighting (e.g. a staffy)? Of course I am, because the mechanics of attack/defence changes very little when you're fighting something which has a shape which is generally speaking the same as yours. The size alone would make an Alsation harder to fight, if any of them got hold of you it would be difficult to get them off, but an Alsation would have more of a chance of getting you to start with because of its size/weight advantage. I would actually take a guess at saying that unless you were completely caught off guard a staffy would be relatively easy to defend against (I wont go into details, because the last thing i want to do is encourage meat heads to fight their dogs). I'm guessing it's cos if you put an alsation up against a breed of dog genetically designed to fight, it will likely end up dead?[/Quote] It all depends on the individual animal. When my dog comes up against other dogs in the park he almost always shows signs of submitting, he's simply not interested. When we visit my parents (who have a particularly large labrador) my dog's pound for pound weight advantage (that is, he weighs less but is proportionately stronger) make no difference when they're playing, he always ends up on his back and the labrador just stands there looking daft while my dog is out of breath. I wouldn't like to wager on such a thing but where my dog is concerned the money would be on the Alsation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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