wednesday1 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Nobody has ever claimed Brown did any of the above. In fact, as a classic deflection technique it's on a par with 'Hitler didn't bomb Pearl Harbour, so he's not a bad bloke after all.' So let's look at what this Saviour of the World did do: The well-documented destruction of private pensions. The equally well-documented selling off of most of our gold reserves which, by being pre-announced, allowed us to sell them at rock-bottom prices. (Estimated cost at the time - has increased since - £9Bn) His 'off-sheet accounting' including PFI. Like the new schools? Hope so. Your grandchildren will be still paying for them. 'Under the terms of the PFI deals struck by Labour, taxpayers are due to pay £245 billion by the 2047/48 financial year. However, the 544 projects involved cost only £51.5 billion to build.' Link But there's more! His insistence on wasting £6Bn on two unnecessary aircraft carriers, unplanned and therefore costing far more in modifications. Still, it did provide work for 20,000 of his constituents... Talking of £6Bn (what's a few billion here and there?), this is what Brown sold Westinghouse - a world-leading developer and constructor of atomic power stations - for in a knock-down price to the Japanese. Now anybody (except a one-eyed sociophobe) knows we have a desperate need for these and we'll end up paying hundreds of billions for our future projects. Surely he's not all bad? Well, there is an enduring myth that Brown 'kept us out of the Euro'. The only reason for this was to spite Blair. Don't believe me? Well why did this Crusader for Britain sneak in, like a rat, after everybody else had left to sign the Lisbon Treaty? He thought nobody would notice. We did. Brown should be happy that his only legacy is going down as the most incompetent and corrupt Prime Minister in our history. By rights, he should be facing charges of misappropriating public funds and treason. Care to provide some examples of this 'corruption'??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Graham Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Far from the old idiocy of 'If you don't vote, you've no right to criticise', it should be 'If you vote for any of these venal, thieving, useless conmen, you deserve all you get.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Graham Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 If you look at how much the gold sale is reputed to have lost us then it's a small drop in the ocean in the great scheme of things, perhaps on a par with the amounts Osborne has let Vodafone avoid paying in tax. Nice try but Vodafone and many many others were avoiding huge amounts of tax long before Osborne took over. Brown lost us £5bn by selling off the gold. That's a small drop in the ocean is it? For the record tax avoidance is perfectly legal. Tax evasion is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricgem2002 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Nice try but Vodafone and many many others were avoiding huge amounts of tax long before Osborne took over. so what is this current lot doing about it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Nice try but Vodafone and many many others were avoiding huge amounts of tax long before Osborne took over. Brown lost us £5bn by selling off the gold. That's a small drop in the ocean is it? For the record tax avoidance is perfectly legal. Tax evasion is not. The £6bn waiver for Vodafone went through when Osborne was the boss. On his watch. Tax avoidance/tax evasion is not the simple binary situation you describe. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e4b90a3c-7379-11e1-94ba-00144feab49a.html#axzz1xyK1TVMI "I regard tax evasion and, indeed, aggressive tax avoidance, as morally repugnant" <-- WHO SAID THIS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafikhaus74 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Care to provide some examples of this 'corruption'??? Ah! Here we go! The usual 'prove it! Prove it!' redolent of the schoolyard brat who isn't getting his way. Here's a link to the Daily Mail (gotcha! Certain outlets aren't allowed in lefty la-la land). If a series of budgets by Brown which took several days/weeks/months to unravel isn't proof enough of this man's legendary lying capabilities, as Mr. Smith said he took the housing costs out of inflation calculations, he's convinced some on here that his criminal gold sale only cost 'a drop in the ocean', etc. etc. Just with PFIs he proved he was more than willing to hoodwink the public. Almost certainly you'll engage in semantics and claim none of this is 'corruption'. No wonder the likes of Brown get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Ah! Here we go! The usual 'prove it! Prove it!' redolent of the schoolyard brat who isn't getting his way. Here's a link to the Daily Mail (gotcha! Certain outlets aren't allowed in lefty la-la land). If a series of budgets by Brown which took several days/weeks/months to unravel isn't proof enough of this man's legendary lying capabilities, as Mr. Smith said he took the housing costs out of inflation calculations, he's convinced some on here that his criminal gold sale only cost 'a drop in the ocean', etc. etc. Just with PFIs he proved he was more than willing to hoodwink the public. Almost certainly you'll engage in semantics and claim none of this is 'corruption'. No wonder the likes of Brown get away with it. Sorry Tory Boy, you haven't given ANY examples of corruption, please come back when you have found some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Sorry Tory Boy, you haven't given ANY examples of corruption, please come back when you have found some. So you believe that the donation by Bernie Ecclestone to the Labour party had nothing to do with the exemption from tobacco advertising that the government made, coincidently around the same time? Also do you believe that it was also a complete coincidence that people were awarded peerages around the same time that they made donation, sorry "offered a loan" towards the Labour party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 So you believe that the donation by Bernie Ecclestone to the Labour party had nothing to do with the exemption from tobacco advertising that the government made, coincidently around the same time? Also do you believe that it was also a complete coincidence that people were awarded peerages around the same time that they made donation, sorry "offered a loan" towards the Labour party? No I don't, and I doubt G.Brown had any hand in it anyway as he was Chancellor at the time, also I not G.Brown doesn't get recieve much gratitiude form the rightwingers for NOT taking us into the Euro. Graffikhaus was one of the Tory toads like serapis who was always on here whinging about this, that and the other when Labour were in. Now the ConDems have caused another recession, he isn't quite as selective in whom he castigates! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 No I don't, and I doubt G.Brown had any hand in it anyway as he was Chancellor at the time, also I not G.Brown doesn't get recieve much gratitiude form the rightwingers for NOT taking us into the Euro. Graffikhaus was one of the Tory toads like serapis who was always on here whinging about this, that and the other when Labour were in. Now the ConDems have caused another recession, he isn't quite as selective in whom he castigates! That's a bit off message, I'd thought that you'd acknowledge the international financial crisis as being at the root of the problem; or did that end when Labour lost power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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