truman Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Murdering is against someones will. It is not murder, the person is willing it to happen, it is assisted suicide. Which is illegal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daven Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Why is there a difference between this and a DNR notice? Genuine question.. DNAR (do not attempt resuscitation) is a notice usually served when, in the event of a cardio-pulmonary arrest (the heart stops beating and the person stops breathing) that no attempts to resuscitate the individual will take place (e.g., CPR and assisted ventilation) which is a decision not made lightly and one where it is generally thought that any resuscitation would be futile. To assist the death of a person, which is what I believe was the issue being discussed, is a totally different thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 I've changed it. assisted suicide would be lawful, so wouldn’t be murder. Oooh I'm sure they're grateful for your correction Jeffrey, you are all heart See, they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Are they understandable as she didn't seem particularily clued up at all and I doubt that there''d be thousands of people suddenly appearing so surely the very few cases could be taken on a case by case decision, There are going to be an awful lot of knee jerk reactions and probably quite a few out spoken people who are going to try and muddy the waters but until some-one actually tries to get a law passed then it's difficult to say how it would work as none of the safe guards have been discussed or even considered by parliament Thanks; so, at present, you cannot rebut them. A good reason for not changing the law, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 DNAR (do not attempt resuscitation) is a notice usually served when, in the event of a cardio-pulmonary arrest (the heart stops beating and the person stops breathing) that no attempts to resuscitate the individual will take place (e.g., CPR and assisted ventilation) which is a decision not made lightly and one where it is generally thought that any resuscitation would be futile. To assist the death of a person, which is what I believe was the issue being discussed, is a totally different thing. What's the difference between assisted suicide and the Liverpool "care" pathway ? Whenever I read about that, which seems to decided by doctors rather than family, it always seems a hairs breath away from pressing a pillow over someone's face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordanjlb Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 R.I.P Tony no more suffering, God bless xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denlin Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 R.I.P Tony no more suffering, God bless xx Wish other people on here had your understanding, perhaps they'd have more comprehension if a family member had taken their own life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodmally Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Wish other people on here had your understanding, perhaps they'd have more comprehension if a family member had taken their own life I couldnt agree more. RIP may he rest in peace. My thoughts are with his family at this difficult time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 R.I.P Tony no more suffering, God bless xx indeed http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-19341722 R.I.P Tony you died how you wanted to die, YOU knew you couldnt go on like you was, your a brave man R.I.P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saunaman Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Heard him last week on Radio 4 after the court verdict , sobbing , it was heartbreaking . Heard the news today and am not ashamed to say that , although I never knew the man personally , sobbed my heart out . May Tony Nicklinson now rest in peace , thoughts go out to his family . Why is the law so inflexible ? Why shouldn't individuals be able to apply for a licence "to hasten death" , on a case by case basis , overseen by a panel from all walks of life who can be convened as and when , not salaried but maybe just on a retainer ? Surely this could be simply set up at minimal cost . If this government ( and I use the term very loosely as it involves red , blue and yellow) can pass the Health Bill in a single afternoon , why can't an independent panel be set up and some legislation drafted to support this ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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