Jim Graham Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I wonder what the social and economic effects would be if everyone (regardless of status) returned back to their ancestral homes ? Graham Towers is my ancestral home. It always has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I know you don't agree, but so far you haven't explained how increasing the population and mass unemployment will help to pay for the elderly. So even though you knew I didn't agree, you thought that you'd ask me anyway. Well done. Also as I have said earlier I am not going to defend a position that you've invented. At the risk of repeating myself once more, I've said before I'm more than happy to disagree, I think that the aging population will be a major problem, you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 The answer to our problems is to educate, motivate and employ the unemployed and for us all to keep working a little longer. Again it's fantasy and wishful thinking, yes wouldn't it be wonderful if there were an equal number of jobs to match the skills and number in the working population? But it's never been so, how do you 'educate' and 'motivate' people who don't want to work or don't have the basic education or skills that employers want..in the right place at the right time? You only have to look at the use of the English language by some nationalists here to see what I mean-most of them can barely conjugate a sentence, yet they've benefited from a free education and growing up in a developed country, yet find themselves competing with foreigners. Wouldn't it be wonderful if all mum's stayed at home, wore gingham pinnies and awaited the arrival of their rosy cheeked children from school with doorstep sandwiches and home made lemonade? Dad worked in the local factory, producing goods that there was a high demand for in the domestic population, without the competition from imports. This is the rose tinted ideology of the nationalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamrocker Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Really whatever made him admit that.Could it be he is trying to influence public opinion to suit his own ends i wonder. To influence public opinion there has to be a problem in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 how do you 'educate' and 'motivate' people who don't want to work or don't have the basic education or skills that employers want.. The lack of basic education is why you educate them surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 The population growth of the UK is positive, not negative. Mainly the result of people living longer. Currently the birth rate is below the levels needed to replace the population. In developed countries sub-replacement fertility is any rate below approximately 2.1 children born per woman, ours is beneath this even though there has been an increase over the last decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 To influence public opinion there has to be a problem in the first place So the politicians obsession for engaging in political spin for the last fifteen years has just passed you by? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 So even though you knew I didn't agree, you thought that you'd ask me anyway. Well done. Also as I have said earlier I am not going to defend a position that you've invented. At the risk of repeating myself once more, I've said before I'm more than happy to disagree, I think that the aging population will be a major problem, you don't. Back to the original question then, the one you haven't answered, why do you think an aging population is a problem, and how would you solve it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Again it's fantasy and wishful thinking, yes wouldn't it be wonderful if there were an equal number of jobs to match the skills and number in the working population? But it's never been so, how do you 'educate' and 'motivate' people who don't want to work or don't have the basic education or skills that employers want..in the right place at the right time? Clearly there must be in your fantasy world because you think we need population expansion through immigration to support our elderly. I don’t think the elderly are a problem, I don’t think the population needs expanding to support them and I don’t think we need immigration to fill jobs when we already have more than enough people here that could fill them. You motivate them by making them work for their benefits, if they can't have something for nothing they will soon become motivated to better themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Back to the original question then, the one you haven't answered, why do you think an aging population is a problem, and how would you solve it? Are you seriously asking why an aging population is a problem?!? As for the solution, I don't think that anybody has actually come up with a solution to the problem, only stop gaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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