marshlad Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 I totally agree with this plan. Housing should be something that individuals arrange for themselves. Why should the state or council house anybody? I live at home because I can't afford my own place so why should 18 year olds who have never contributed be housed for free?. The way I see it is no job=no money=no food= no house=DEATH. Work or Starve!! Work or DIE!! This is Labour's legacy of dependency & idleness that Cameron is trying to deal with. People should get angry with Blair & Brown not Cameron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyofborg Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 This is Labour's legacy of dependency & idleness that Cameron is trying to deal with. People should get angry with Blair & Brown not Cameron. while labour deserve a great deal of criticism for the fact that they did very little to address the underlying problems, the legacy is that of conservative governments of the 80's. it's those government's which destoyed the state owned housing sector, created a property bubble which drove house prices up, stood by and did nothing to lessen the effect of the collapse of the traditional industries and created an environment where wealth has been transferred from poor to rich at an ever increasing rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 avoiding the question again I answered the question you just didn't understand the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 while labour deserve a great deal of criticism for the fact that they did very little to address the underlying problems, the legacy is that of conservative governments of the 80's. it's those government's which destoyed the state owned housing sector, created a property bubble which drove house prices up, stood by and did nothing to lessen the effect of the collapse of the traditional industries and created an environment where wealth has been transferred from poor to rich at an ever increasing rate. Selling the council houses meant people that would never have been able afford their own home could afford it and it also kept property prices low. It was mass immigration, a lack of housing to accommodate the expanding population, buy to let and low interests rates that caused the property bubble that made housing as expensive as it is today, they all happed over the past decade under labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 I answered the question you just didn't understand the answer. Why are you so pathetic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 I totally agree with this plan. Housing should be something that individuals arrange for themselves. Why should the state or council house anybody? I live at home because I can't afford my own place so why should 18 year olds who have never contributed be housed for free?. The way I see it is no job=no money=no food= no house=DEATH. Work or Starve!! Work or DIE!! This is Labour's legacy of dependency & idleness that Cameron is trying to deal with. People should get angry with Blair & Brown not Cameron. its always big words from some, ranting about taking stuff away from people. ok, lets look at the issue logically if we remove housing benefit etc from people, dont you think that creates whole new (possibly bigger) problems for society? homelessness will increase wholescale also problems associated with it will (crime, drugs, alcohol abuse, begging, asaults, rape, people being sent to prison, deaths) crime will go off the scale when people are desperate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 its always big words from some, ranting about taking stuff away from people. ok, lets look at the issue logically if we remove housing benefit etc from people, dont you think that creates whole new (possibly bigger) problems for society? homelessness will increase wholescale also problems associated with it will (crime, drugs, alcohol abuse, begging, asaults, rape, people being sent to prison, deaths) crime will go off the scale when people are desperate No I think people will try harder to find a job and it will solve more problems than it creates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLakeland Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 What will happen to someone under 25 who has a child? Or an asylum seeker under 25?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 No I think people will try harder to find a job and it will solve more problems than it creates. i dont think people WIll try harder tbh, some might, but theres a definite underclass and tbh i think most would rather turn to crime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 i dont think people WIll try harder tbh, some might, but theres a definite underclass and tbh i think most would rather turn to crime The we lock them up, we can't be held to ransom by this underclass, that just won't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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