barleycorn Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Don't all kids in all schools refer to female staff as "Miss"...regardless? I seem to remember I always did, but that was a loooong time ago! ... and male teachers were sir. jb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffragette1 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 ... and male teachers were sir. jb And still are referred thus. 'Sir' certainly has more gravitas than 'Miss' and conveys a higher status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamatron Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 And still are referred thus. 'Sir' certainly has more gravitas than 'Miss' and conveys a higher status. I really think that might be your hang up rather than a fact. Sir and Miss are both terms of respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffragette1 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I really think that might be your hang up rather than a fact. Sir and Miss are both terms of respect. I don't think so, Sir is a term used to also bestow those with knighthoods and it has very different connotations to Miss. Language is a very powerful tool and conveys messages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMorris Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I don't think so, Sir is a term used to also bestow those with knighthoods and it has very different connotations to Miss. Language is a very powerful tool and conveys messages. Isn't that the point of languages? To convey messages! That being said, we all have our own interpretations of what those messages are. What I see, you might see as something completely different, and vice versa. How many times have you either sent or received a text message, only to 'take it the wrong way'...or misinterpret it as meaning something entirely different to what was actually meant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamatron Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I don't think so, Sir is a term used to also bestow those with knighthoods and it has very different connotations to Miss. Language is a very powerful tool and conveys messages. A knighthood Sir is just a different word. Miss and Sir are equivalents, both convey respect and state gender-that is all. ...unless of course you say them with a sarcy accent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffragette1 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 A knighthood Sir is just a different word. Miss and Sir are equivalents, both convey respect and state gender-that is all. ...unless of course you say them with a sarcy accent! It is the same word that whilst used in a different context, still carries far more weight than 'Miss'. Miss does not convey the same amount of respect as Sir, by any stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamatron Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 It is the same word that whilst used in a different context, still carries far more weight than 'Miss'. Miss does not convey the same amount of respect as Sir, by any stretch. in your head it doesn't. That doesn't make it a fact, maybe you just have an inferiority complex? I have less respect for people that use Ms, I accept that is not because they are lesser species it is because I loathe the word. It is my hang up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffragette1 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Isn't that the point of languages? To convey messages! That being said, we all have our own interpretations of what those messages are. What I see, you might see as something completely different, and vice versa. How many times have you either sent or received a text message, only to 'take it the wrong way'...or misinterpret it as meaning something entirely different to what was actually meant! Misinterpreting the written word, espcially when it's written in shorthand, is very different to how the titles Miss and Sir are not equal in terms of status and gravitas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffragette1 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 in your head it doesn't. That doesn't make it a fact, maybe you just have an inferiority complex? No I have not got an inferiority complex, what a ridiculous and absurd thing to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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