Jason Bourne Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Well if you could draw yourself out from the 1920's for a second, it's possible that the mother is quite able to bring the child up alone. You think a gangster's moll who gets up the duff while said gangster is banged up for a few years has the best interest of her kids in mind? You think said gangster is going to be a good role model for his spawn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingjimmy Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 They offended when they had the freedom to see their spouse so I don’t see how freedom to see their spouse wouldn't stop them reoffending.It's not going to stop them, it's going to make them less likely to reoffend. Its' quite simple really. Better family life at home, means less likely to turn to crime, this is well understood. Stronger emotional bond between spouses means better family life at home, that one's pretty obvious. Continued opportunity for physical contact with spouse means stronger emotional bond, again, pretty obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrapeApe Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 You think a gangster's moll who gets up the duff while said gangster is banged up for a few years has the best interest of her kids in mind? You think said gangster is going to be a good role model for his spawn? In some US states, you have to provide evidence of birth control. No idea how that works...the mind boggles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerrangaroo Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 You think a gangster's moll who gets up the duff while said gangster is banged up for a few years has the best interest of her kids in mind? You think said gangster is going to be a good role model for his spawn? I just don't arrive at the same automatic conclusions that you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingjimmy Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Do you think their spouse supported their original illegal activites?We were talking of generalities, no-one's mentioned a specific case so how can I possibly answer that? I've heard anecdotal evidence of burgled victims not being able to use the matrimonial bedroom after burglary.They probably won't be getting any sex.So you aren't interested in reoffending rates, you just want them to suffer? Surely it's more important that they don't offend when they get out than that they suffer whilst their inside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Because if they come out with no relationships left, I think that would give them more time on their hands and a less stable home life and this might make them more likely to re-offend. One of the main points of sending people prison is to try and reduce re-offending so anything that contributes to this should be tried and tested out. A very quick google shows there is some evidence that it reduces reoffending and also quite a lot that it reduces sexual violence in prison. Found nothing so far to suggest is may have an adverse effect. But they had that before they offended so how will keeping it stop them reoffending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 How do you come to the conclusion that love should somehow trump any thoughts of criminal activity. Are there not cases where love itself is the cause of such behaviour. That would be a good reason to keep them apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 It's not going to stop them, it's going to make them less likely to reoffend. Its' quite simple really. Better family life at home, means less likely to turn to crime, this is well understood. Stronger emotional bond between spouses means better family life at home, that one's pretty obvious. Continued opportunity for physical contact with spouse means stronger emotional bond, again, pretty obvious. It didn't make them less likely to offend when they had it, so how will it make them less likely to offend if they keep it. Based on your conclusions all prisoners should be free to go out and seek love because it would make them less likely to reoffend, we should close all prisons and make criminals join dating agencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerrangaroo Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 That would be a good reason to keep them apart. No it wouldn't, that would be a good reason to explain that love isn't all about having and spending money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerrangaroo Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 It didn't make them less likely to offend when they had it, so how will it make them less likely to offend if they keep it. Based on your conclusions all prisoners should be free to go out and seek love because it would make them less likely to reoffend, we should close all prisons and make criminals join dating agencies. Yes but he's talking about existing relationships not single men/women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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