HeadingNorth Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 My take on this is the exclusion of this service or that service. A case in point, which is loosly related 'Dental Care'... Why is it that dental care is any different from say cancer care? Why is there a special case for dental care? And please don't anyone tell me it's free, cos it's not, even NHS treatment. Its a special case and I don't know why that is! Part of the reason is that you can actually look after your own teeth. The NHS stopped being 100% free at the point of need, about eighteen months after it was created; the man responsible was the same man who created it, Nye Bevan. Even he had to admit that it was an impossible dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMorris Posted July 11, 2012 Author Share Posted July 11, 2012 Part of the reason is that you can actually look after your own teeth. The NHS stopped being 100% free at the point of need, about eighteen months after it was created; the man responsible was the same man who created it, Nye Bevan. Even he had to admit that it was an impossible dream. Oh? You've never needed any checkups or a filling or an extraction? Lucky you! Or do you do your own? Dental care is healthcare whichever way you look at it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Oh? You've never needed any checkups or a filling or an extraction? Lucky you! Or do you do your own? Personally, I don't look after my teeth very well. The argument behind it, though, is that people who do so, invariably need less dental care than people (like me) who don't. I'm not saying I support that argument, just explaining what it is. You'd have to ask Bevan himself why he selected dental care (among a few other things) to be taken out of the "free at the point of need" provision - but you can't, because he's dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willman Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Oh? You've never needed any checkups or a filling or an extraction? Lucky you! Or do you do your own? Dental care is healthcare whichever way you look at it! Dental care is a service provided outside the NHS - decided by the dentists. If you want it you pay for it. Just like eye care and spectacles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMorris Posted July 11, 2012 Author Share Posted July 11, 2012 Dental care is a service provided outside the NHS - decided by the dentists. If you want it you pay for it. Just like eye care and spectacles. Crikey, that's news to me. Yes I know there are private dentists. Dental care is healthcare in my book. It's just treated as a special case by the NHS. Healthcare is 'healthcare', whether it be cancer, dental, or care for the elderly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Healthcare is 'healthcare', whether it be cancer, dental, or care for the elderly. Health care for the elderly still is free. These proposals are to do with personal care, like needing someone to cook dinner for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willman Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Crikey, that's news to me. Yes I know there are private dentists. Dental care is healthcare in my book. It's just treated as a special case by the NHS. Healthcare is 'healthcare', whether it be cancer, dental, or care for the elderly. Dental services aren't free, so imho thats outside the NHS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Orange Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 My take on this is the exclusion of this service or that service. A case in point, which is loosly related 'Dental Care'... Why is it that dental care is any different from say cancer care? Why is there a special case for dental care? And please don't anyone tell me it's free, cos it's not, even NHS treatment. Its a special case and I don't know why that is! Successive governments of whatever persuassion have known there was a ticking time bomb with elderly care requirements, cos the ol' buggers are hanging around longer than they used to. They've known this for years... donkeys years, yet 'chosen' to ignore the problem and bury their heads in the sand. If you've got the money to pay for your own care, the chances are, you'll probably do that anyway, regardless of anything else. I'm talking about those that don't have huge pensions, don't have money stashed here there and everywhere. All they've got is the bricks and mortar they have worked all their lives for. So that's taken from them to pay for their care. Something which via taxation they have probably already paid for many times over during their life. It's just a graverobbing exercise cos the govenrnment can't think how else to fund it now because for years they have ignored the problem hoping it will go away! If they have little money and only have money invested in property, a property they no longer need, then it's only right that the property is used to fund their care in a home. Alternatively, what other options are they? I am guessing you won't mind being taxed to the hilt to fund free care home places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Dental services aren't free, so imho thats outside the NHS. That is true, but that fact that it is so doesn't explain why it is so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansheff Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Another way to look it is the obscene amounts some of these nursing homes charge, £100 a night as just shown on the news is ridiculous. I remember about 20 years ago a large hotel in Sheffield closing and becoming a nursing home because there was more money to be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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