Baz1 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Maybe. Loads of men watch porn and plenty of women too. No link between porn use and rape (unless people are watching 'rape porn', then I guess it might matter). Not entirely true. An academic research by Diana E. Russell in her publication ‘Pornography & Rape: A causal model’ she states, “ My theory about how pornography – violent and non-violent – can cause rape…drawn on the findings of recent research….I believe there are many factors that play a causal role in this crime. I have not attempted here to evaluate the relative importance of these different causal factors, but merely to show the overwhelming evidence that pornography is a major one of them” In this study journals and academic research were cited which concluded that 56% of rapists implicated pornography in the commission of their offence, 66% of rapists claimed they were incited by pornography and 30 % of college students would rape if they could get away with it. It is a problem if society continues to allow it to give some people their so called 'individual freedom'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffragette1 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Not entirely true. An academic research by Diana E. Russell in her publication ‘Pornography & Rape: A causal model’ she states, In this study journals and academic research were cited which concluded that 56% of rapists implicated pornography in the commission of their offence, 66% of rapists claimed they were incited by pornography and 30 % of college students would rape if they could get away with it. It is a problem if society continues to allow it to give some people their so called 'individual freedom'. I think that there is conclusive evidence that the vast majority of rapists and serial killers are regular consumers of porn. Whilst I have a lot of respect for Diana E Russell, I think that it is very difficult to prove a causal link. They may use porn to justify their fantasies rather than be influenced by it. It's such a complex area but what is without doubt is that porn, generally, does objectify and normalise violence against women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Not entirely true. An academic research by Diana E. Russell in her publication ‘Pornography & Rape: A causal model’ she states, In this study journals and academic research were cited which concluded that 56% of rapists implicated pornography in the commission of their offence, 66% of rapists claimed they were incited by pornography and 30 % of college students would rape if they could get away with it. It is a problem if society continues to allow it to give some people their so called 'individual freedom'. It’s almost like rape became prevalent with the advent of porn, or have there always been rapist, many of us are probably the decadents of the invaders of Britain, that raped and pillaged long before porn. Does pornography breed rape? Do violent movies breed violent crime? Quite the opposite, it seems. First, porn. What happens when more people view more of it? The rise of the Internet offers a gigantic natural experiment. Better yet, because Internet usage caught on at different times in different states, it offers 50 natural experiments. The bottom line on these experiments is, "More Net access, less rape." A 10 percent increase in Net access yields about a 7.3 percent decrease in reported rapes. States that adopted the Internet quickly saw the biggest declines. And, according to Clemson professor Todd Kendall, the effects remain even after you control for all of the obvious confounding variables, such as alcohol consumption, police presence, poverty and unemployment rates, population density, and so forth. So, the auxiliary evidence is all consistent with the hypothesis that Net access reduces rape because Net access makes it easy to find porn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinz Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Reported crimes. If it’s not reported there won't be a conviction or a prison sentence. If you have 3 women sex offenders in prison as opposed to 99 male sex offenders then that is a pretty good barometer of the levels of crime from a statistical viewpoint. If you apply those statistics equally to the hypothesis of non recorded crimes then the figures would still amount to the same unless you have some evidence which counters the reality of the numbers in existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I think that there is conclusive evidence that the vast majority of rapists and serial killers are regular consumers of porn. Whilst I have a lot of respect for Diana E Russell, I think that it is very difficult to prove a causal link. They may use porn to justify their fantasies rather than be influenced by it. It's such a complex area but what is without doubt is that porn, generally, does objectify and normalise violence against women. Porn doesn't, but people do, long before porn women were used a possessions to be used as their owner felt fit, in fact there are still societies today that do this, and not because they look at porn. Porn empowers women and there's absolutely no evidence that pornography does anything negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffragette1 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Porn doesn't, but people do, long before porn women were used a possessions to be used as their owner felt fit, in fact there are still societies today that do this, and not because they look at porn. Porn empowers women and there's absolutely no evidence that pornography does anything negative. Is this some kind of wind up? It has to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 If you have 3 women sex offenders in prison as opposed to 99 male sex offenders then that is a pretty good barometer of the levels of crime from a statistical viewpoint. If you apply those statistics equally to the hypothesis of non recorded crimes then the figures would still amount to the same unless you have some evidence which counters the reality of the numbers in existence. No it isn't, it just tells us that more men are convicted than women. It doesn't tell us anything about the amount of unreported crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Is this some kind of wind up? It has to be. You are blaming porn for rape, I'm simply stating the men raped women well before porn was available, if anything with the advent of porn rapes have dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinz Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Is this some kind of wind up? It has to be. No. He is quite serious. I know you may have thought that this type of thinking went out with the mammoth, but I'm afraid it still exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinz Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 No it isn't, it just tells us that more men are convicted than women. It doesn't tell us anything about the amount of unreported crime. Can you give us all the wisdom of your knowledge..just what are the numbers of these unreported crimes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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