AbdullaJones Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 my god i cant believe what i have just been reading anyone would think the whole of the male population was a bunch of sick perverts :loopy: you really are a man hater??:roll: whose the sick one?? That one makes my skin crawl. Such a man hating piece of work its unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffragette1 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 That one makes my skin crawl. Such a man hating piece of work its unreal. Hmmm, that last post read to me as if Erebus is a male. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubydazzler Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 That one makes my skin crawl. Such a man hating piece of work its unreal. erebus appears to be a man ... if using the phrase 'we males' means anything? Perhaps he's just calling it like he sees it? Does that make it any better for you, or worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinz Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Quite, why are people getting so defensive? The gut wrenching connection possibly between rape and porn. They somehow equate that some are defending the notion that all rape = porn or all porn = rape..which is stupidity in itself. " Don't you dare even suggest that porn could be linked in some cases to rape because you are implying that I'm a rapist too" IMO It has nothing to do with the 14yr old..it does have a lot to do with their own fragility though. The whole world is crashing around their ears.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffragette1 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 erebus appears to be a man ... if using the phrase 'we males' means anything? Perhaps he's just calling it like he sees it? Does that make it any better for you, or worse? The gut wrenching connection possibly between rape and porn. They somehow equate that some are defending the notion that all rape = porn or all porn = rape..which is stupidity in itself. " Don't you dare even suggest that porn could be linked in some cases to rape because you are implying that I'm a rapist too" IMO It has nothing to do with the 14yr old..it does have a lot to do with their own fragility though. The whole world is crashing around their ears.. Quite. I love how anyone denouncing the worst aspects of masculinity, patriarchy and macho culture is instantly pegged as some deranged misandrist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janie48 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Are you sure its a woman? erebus appears to be a man ... if using the phrase 'we males' means anything? Perhaps he's just calling it like he sees it? Does that make it any better for you, or worse? A few posters assumed it was a woman, which had me wondering if i'd got it wrong. erebus it doesn't really matter what sex you are,but for the sake of further confusion please enlighten us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubydazzler Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Quite. I love how anyone denouncing the worst aspects of masculinity, patriarchy and macho culture is instantly pegged as some deranged misandrist.Possibly because it's so rare for men to have a man denouncing other males? We're used to our own sex descending like a pack of harpies to rip other women to pieces if we don't conform to the accepted standards but it rarely happens vice versa. I know men who don't agree with prevailing male attitudes in their work or social circles but they rarely have the balls to comment or criticise. They may not nod or smile or join in, but they very rarely say "oy mate, don't agree with that" or "would you like anyone to talk about your sister/mother/daughter like that"? or even "you do realise you're coming perilously close to endorsing rape/domestic vioence/whatever"? So I suppose it's hard for men to accept that another man would be so downright about things? Just a hypothesis *she says mildly* before anyone starts getting their boxers in a twist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj.scuba Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Quite, why are people getting so defensive? Perhaps because poster erebus seems to be suggesting rape, child molesting and wife beating are popular pass times for the average British adult male. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffragette1 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Perhaps because poster erebus seems to be suggesting rape, child molesting and wife beating are popular pass times for the average British adult male. He has said 'a significant percentage' and referred to what the statistics evidence, admittedly not having provided any. What we know about in terms of statistics is the tip of the iceberg as the vast majority of rapes and child abuses cases are not reported. I have worked with emotionally distressed adults and behind every single one of those cases, 95% of which were female, there was a history of child sex abuse, rape or domestic violence, in some cases all 3. Also anedotal evidence from people working with female victims of rape shows that due to high profile rape trials and the public awareness of low conviction rates, women are less likely to report rape than ever, particularly when it involved someone known to them, which accounts for the overwhelming majority of rapes. According to Women's Aid, 1 in 4 women will experience domestic violence at some point in their lifetime. 1 in 4 women have experienced rape or attempted rape. Violence against women is undeniably a huge problem. http://www.womensaid.org.uk/core/core_picker/download.asp?id=1602 http://www.rapecrisis.org.uk/Statistics2.php/Statistics2.php Given that 25% of women have experienced both types of violence it is fair to assume that it is not a tiny percentage of men committing all these crimes against a much higher percentage of women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 He has said 'a significant percentage' and referred to what the statistics evidence, admittedly not having provided any. What we know about in terms of statistics is the tip of the iceberg as the vast majority of rapes and child abuses cases are not reported. I have worked with emotionally distressed adults and behind every single one of those cases, 95% of which were female, there was a history of child sex abuse, rape or domestic violence, in some cases all 3. Also anedotal evidence from people working with female victims of rape shows that due to high profile rape trials and the public awareness of low conviction rates, women are less likely to report rape than ever, particularly when it involved someone known to them, which accounts for the overwhelming majority of rapes. According to Women's Aid, 1 in 4 women will experience domestic violence at some point in their lifetime. 1 in 4 women have experienced rape or attempted rape. Violence against women is undeniably a huge problem. http://www.womensaid.org.uk/core/core_picker/download.asp?id=1602 http://www.rapecrisis.org.uk/Statistics2.php/Statistics2.php Given that 25% of women have experienced both types of violence it is fair to assume that it is not a tiny percentage of men committing all these crimes against a much higher percentage of women. 1 in 4 women have experienced rape or attempted rape Painter, 1991 Survey of 1,007 women in 11 cities, Northern England Was the survey carried out in a rape crisis centres? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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