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Does anyone know Barras family pub on the Moor 1890


jfish1936

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I found out that my grandmother, Georgina Billard, worked in a pub on the Moor in 1890. The family who owned it were called Barras.

(1891 census)

Has anyone heard of this pub?

In 1891 she married my grandfather, George Bennett, who was previously married to Emily Pearson; Emily had 3 children, but they weren't with George in the 1901 census.

Georgina had 11 children; I couldn't misbehave as a child, because Sheffield was full of Aunties!

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Devonshire arms?

Punchbowl Inn?

Punchbowl Hotel?

Travellers' rest/Billy Lees?

 

 

Ahhhh, now was it the area known as 'Moor', or South street, later re-named 'The Moor'??

 

(and how come it's only photos 92 and 93 of my search that gave me this info? :suspect: )

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Originally posted by Strix

Devonshire arms?

Punchbowl Inn?

Punchbowl Hotel?

Travellers' rest/Billy Lees?

 

 

Ahhhh, now was it the area known as 'Moor', or South street, later re-named 'The Moor'??

 

(and how come it's only photos 92 and 93 of my search that gave me this info? :suspect: )

 

My evidence is the 1891 census, RG 12/3802, for the parish of Ecclesall Bierlow and ward of Ecclesall

The address column is headed Sheffield Moor

 

No. 3 on the schedule of dwellings is 156,154 where James (Sommerley or Romilly, hard to read) is a milliner.

 

Then 152, 150 are shops with no do-one living there.

 

No. 4 on the schedule is 144,146,.

Robert Barras, licensed victualler

Susannah, his wife

Eleanor, Jessie or Tessie, Gertrude and Frank, their children.

Georgina Billard, servant, barmaid.

Rose Ann (?)astie, servant general

 

No. 5 is 170 Thomas St, so presumably we've come to an intersection; it's probably changed too much to make it worth flying over from Australia and walking down the Moor to look!

 

jfish1936

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Originally posted by jfish1936

.... it's probably changed too much to make it worth flying over from Australia and walking down the Moor to look!

 

jfish1936

Ded right! the bits of the moor that weren't bombed to smithereens were bulldozed anyway, and the street widened!!

 

Have a look at http://www.picturesheffield.com and google for citysnapper :thumbsup:

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  • 3 weeks later...

This building is identifiable on the Godfrey 1903 OS reprint, Ecclesall & Sharrow sheet. It is close to the junction with Thomas Street, and is set back from the road compared to the buildings either side. The two 'French window' extensions in the photo are discernible on the map.

 

White's 1919/20 Directory shows a Pianoforte dealer on the corner at 138-140, then the victualler at 144.

 

On the map in Douglas Lamb's 'A pub on every corner' Thomas Street is unaccountably labelled 'Tudor' Street. But those maps are often unreliable.

 

Both Lamb and Liversidge (in 'Sheffield Public Houses') say it was at 140 South Street - perhaps an earlier numbering, or perhaps a new build next to older premises, with the older building eventually being occupied by the pianos.

 

Hugh

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