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can any grimesthorpe historians tell me how the pub on botham st got its name of who can tell

 

Its a mystery but when you looked at it it just looked like one of the houses so who could tell it was a pub??? walked past it every day for 10 years :hihi:

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can any grimesthorpe historians tell me how the pub on botham st got its name of who can tell

 

It was named after a Racehorse that won the 1894 Grand National, it was ridden by a Jockey called Gatland and was owned by Mr J Widger

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It was named after a Racehorse that won the 1894 Grand National, it was ridden by a Jockey called Gatland and was owned by Mr J Widger

 

Thats an interesting bit of info Lazarus how did you come by that? the winner was called WHY NOT !

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The WHY NOT inn was on Clun st also in S4.As for the WHO CAN TELL, no description in any book i have gives a reason for it's name,sorry.

 

I got the info about the Who Can Tell from History Sheffield which is very reliable.

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I got the info about the Who Can Tell from History Sheffield which is very reliable.

 

I got the info from the first book i picked up.A pub on every corner.Like i said the info list's only the address for the Who can tell but gives a brief description of the Why not inn (John turley named it after his grand national winner).

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just been reading quotes about the who can tell public house,i wasn,t from grimesthorpe but my grandparents were the last landlord and landlady before it closed in early 70,s

 

Thats Charlie and Emmy then,had some good nights in there.Used to put jukebox on and if emmy didn't like the song she'd come in and reject it.lovely couple though.

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A Mystery: Almost as old as Grimesthorpe itself.

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When a pub was opened on the corner of Botham Street and Ruthin Street, it acquired an unusual name: 'Who Can Tell'. I've often wished 'Someone Could Tell'

how it came to have the name but anyone who knew will have been supping pints in that great Tap Room in the sky for many years past.

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Could there be a clue with the absence of a question mark?

Are the words 'Who Can Tell' part of a longer sentence?

Was the landlord or lady hoping to moderate their customers drinking habits by way of a warning?

Or was it the result of someone's sense of humour?

Whatever the answer, it has been lost in the mist of time, a time of long ago. Or to be more precise, about 2,700 years ago in Nineveh. Nineveh is thought to have been in the modern day country of Iraq but like many civilizations throughout the ages, was mired in its own success.

Drunkenness, fornication, gluttony and greed were rife and the Great Almighty was not pleased.

God, who looked upon Yorkshire as the Heavenly county and spoke with a Yorkshire accent, sent for his old pal and trouble shooter, Jonah. "Jonah, get thi sen off t' Nineveh and sort the lazy sods art. Tell 'em, if they don't stop buggerin' abart an' mend their ways, I'll send a few plagues an' famines an' bolts o' lightenin', that should square 'em up".

Jonah jumped on a passing ship and set sail for Nineveh but he hadn't gone very far when the crew took a dislike to him and chucked him over the side. His problems got worse when a passing whale swallowed him whole. Then, Jonah's luck changed when the whale puked him up along with a couple of tons of smelly sardines on a sandy beach not too far from Baghdad.

He rented a camel for a couple of days and made his way to Nineveh where he sought an audience with the King who was also the chairman and concert secretary of the newly affiliated Nineveh Working Mens' Club." Th'art lucky t' catch me". said King Nineveh to Jonah. "Me an' t' committee 'ave just got back from a talent spottin' trip t' Sheffield", where among other things, they too learned to speak God's tongue.

Jonah said. "Shurrup an' listen". The King and the rest of the committee listened, while Jonah, as the saying goes, put the fear of God up 'em. Telling them straight about God's anger and threats to wipe the entire population of Nineveh off the face of the Earth.

Realising the error of their ways, the people of Nineveh asked for forgiveness and promised to spend the next six months wearing sack cloth and ashes.

When Jonah left, the King turned to the assembled people of Nineveh and said something like this:

"Who knows, God may relent and not destroy us if we repent and mend our ways?"

 

 

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Jonah. Chapter 3: Verse 9.

WHO CAN TELL if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?

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