Kerrangaroo Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 We keep lions in a zoo and protect their natural habitat, keeping them from extenction. Humans, as a whole are top of the food chain, however you look at it. You certainly have a unique way of viewing the world. Lions are in the zoo because we are destroying their habitat. They are under threat from being hunted and it has nothing to do with food chains but all to do with self satisfaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzo77 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 All reflect the point I'm making. That all these things are down to our unique cognitive development. Just as this makes us 'unique' so does the fleas ability to jump make them unique but in a different way etc etc etc, all you're doing is reinforcing my argument. The fleas ability to jump long distances, hasn't given it Self-awareness or intelligence or language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzo77 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 You certainly have a unique way of viewing the world. Lions are in the zoo because we are destroying their habitat. They are under threat from being hunted and it has nothing to do with food chains but all to do with self satisfaction. I have a realistic view of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaliRichard Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 If every human could afford to protect themselves against mosquito's and stop their biting, they wouldn't have a food source and they would die out. Thankyou for ignoring the bulk of my post and sticking with the aside that you think you can answer Mosquito's don't feed exclusively on humans. I'm sure had humans the capability of wiping them out they would have done so a long time ago. Regarding the point you made to Chris I'd assume that a Lion doesn't do much thinking. It definitely doesn't have a point of view[/Quote] How do you know that lions don't think or have points of view? My dog can work out that if I block part of the garden off he has to go to a different one to try to get through. Not only can he work this out he also waits until he thinks I'm not looking to do so. How does he do this unless he applies thought to experience? I would assume that a lion has somewhere in the same region of cognitive ability as my dog, so I wouldn't think it too unrealistic a proposition to say a lion can think too. Again re my dog, he has food he prefers and toys he likes better than others, wouldn't you say this constituted a point of view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaliRichard Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 The fleas ability to jump long distances, hasn't given it Self-awareness or intelligence or language. None of those things make us superior to fleas in a naturalistic sense, they make us superior to them cognitively, no one is arguing that point (again). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerrangaroo Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I have a realistic view of the world. Clearly you don't if you believe that we are somehow looking out for animals. The principle of a 'zoo' is a good indication of how we benefit the animal world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light sonic Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I have a realistic view of the world. Unlike the freaks on here who's socialist egalitarianism extends even to the animal kingdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaliRichard Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Unlike the freaks on here who's socialist egalitarianism extends even to the animal kingdom. Still avoiding providing evidence by calling the proponants of the opposing viewpoint names I see. I'm not sure if it's escaped your notice but I haven't once stated my stance on the subject of animal experimentation. My only argument on this subject is that those in favour seem to think that we are either not animals or that we have some kind of mythical superiority over them, neither view which is backed up by science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light sonic Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Physically humans certainly are not top of the tree so to speak, we do not have the eysight of birds of prey, or the sense of smell of a dogs, but then they dont have opposable thumbs and all the benefits that brings to us, so its swings and roundabouts in that regard. It is the human mind and its limitless possibilities that makes human beings superior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzo77 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Clearly you don't if you believe that we are somehow looking out for animals. The principle of a 'zoo' is a good indication of how we benefit the animal world. I'm not trying to say that we benefit the animal world. We've done more damage that good. I'm only stating that my outlook is a realistic one, like it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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