MrSmith Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Is it ethical for the UK to recruit doctors from India at a time when India is short of doctors and the UK have had medical graduates wanting to train as doctors but couldn’t. India faces chronic shortage of doctors, nurses. With the population expected to grow to 1.7 billion by 2050, India is sorely lacking in doctors and nurses. There is now only one doctor for every 2,000 persons. The Health Minister recently revealed that 27 per cent of India's registered doctors and over 60 per cent of nurses registered with the Medical Council of India (MCI) were no longer working. The recommended norm, according to the World Health Organization, is to have between 23 and 25 health workers per 10,000 people. India has only 19 health workers for every 10,000 people. Shortage forces UK to recruit Indian doctors London, June 2: Britain is turning back to Indian doctors as the nation's National Health Service (NHS) is facing acute shortage of junior medicos, posing the first test to the new coalition government's restrictive immigration policy. The government is being forced to recruit doctors from India and elsewhere, as new rules framed in 2006 preventing doctors from non-European Union to practice in England, has led to acute shortage of medical professionals in the country. A shortage of junior doctors to start work in hospitals this August is forcing the NHS to try to recruit from India, the BBC has learned. 3 August 2005 As many as 2,000 junior doctors have failed to find hospital jobs in the latest round of NHS recruiting. The British Medical Association is blaming a shortage of training posts and increased competition from foreign doctors. 30th November 2010 Two per cent of final year medical students will not receive a place on a 2011 Foundation Programme when places are allocated in December. 30 November 2010 BMA warns medical graduates face unemployment 14th November 2011 It may not be possible to guarantee all future UK medical school graduates a place on the foundation programme, two new reports are warning. 21 September 2007 Government immigration policy to blame for medical unemployment Up to 1,000 new doctors could face unemployment Up to 1,000 new doctors will face unemployment next year as there are too few training places available, it has been warned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert_Baehr Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 What goes around, comes around. India had no problems with importing jobs (and industries) from the UK and elsewhere, did they? If it's a 'free market' (and 'fair game') when they poach jobs from elsewhere, nobody can complain if others do it to them. India has plenty of money (nobody with a nuclear arsenal can claim to be poor). If the Indians want more doctors, why don't they open up more medical schools and train more? If they don't want to do that, they could always make life so attractive to the doctors they've got that they don't want to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted August 3, 2012 Author Share Posted August 3, 2012 What goes around, comes around. India had no problems with importing jobs (and industries) from the UK and elsewhere, did they? If it's a 'free market' (and 'fair game') when they poach jobs from elsewhere, nobody can complain if others do it to them. India has plenty of money (nobody with a nuclear arsenal can claim to be poor). If the Indians want more doctors, why don't they open up more medical schools and train more? If they don't want to do that, they could always make life so attractive to the doctors they've got that they don't want to leave. They are trying to train more doctors, which is what we should also do instead of poaching the doctors they train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Is it ethical for the UK to recruit doctors from India at a time when India is short of doctors and the UK have had medical graduates wanting to train as doctors but couldn’t. Medicine is and should be an international profession. Doctors do and should move around the world taking advantage of opportunities to improve their qualifications and experience. Countries also benefit from having highly qualified and experienced specialists coming to their country sharing their skills and knowledge. Are you suggesting that this should end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted August 3, 2012 Author Share Posted August 3, 2012 Medicine is and should be an international profession. Doctors do and should move around the world taking advantage of opportunities to improve their qualifications and experience. Countries also benefit from having highly qualified and experienced specialists coming to their country sharing their skills and knowledge. Are you suggesting that this should end? I think the doctors and health specialists should be free to move round the world to the countries with the greatest need, not to the countries with the most money. Our need is much lower than the need of India yet we encourage their doctors to come here by offering them more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janie48 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Is it ethical for the UK to recruit doctors from India at a time when India is short of doctors and the UK have had medical graduates wanting to train as doctors but couldn’t. I presume you mean qualified doctors.Some of them come here to obtain further experience in specialist areas,I assume in India they don't have all the progressive technology we have,India being such a massive Country. I expect many of them return to India,if not perhaps they're arn't enough Hospitals and posts are not available,there should be of course with such a massive population. As for the ethical position,thats down to them,what do you suggest we should be doing helping them with their economy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 I think the doctors and health specialists should be free to move round the world to the countries with the greatest need, not to the countries with the most money. Our need is much lower than the need of India yet we encourage their doctors to come here by offering them more money. You completely missed the point of my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert_Baehr Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 I think the doctors and health specialists should be free to move round the world to the countries with the greatest need, not to the countries with the most money. ... Surely if you're going to say where they can move (and where they cannot move) that hardly constitutes 'freedom of movement'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert_Baehr Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 ...what do you suggest we should be doing helping them with their economy? Well, you already send India £1.4bn a year. And they need it. - Space programmes and nuclear arsenals cost a few bob to run, you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted August 3, 2012 Author Share Posted August 3, 2012 I presume you mean qualified doctors.Some of them come here to obtain further experience in specialist areas,I assume in India they don't have all the progressive technology we have,India being such a massive Country. I expect many of them return to India,if not perhaps they're arn't enough Hospitals and posts are not available,there should be of course with such a massive population. As for the ethical position,thats down to them,what do you suggest we should be doing helping them with their economy? The situation is that they don't have enough doctors and any doctors they lose to us is one less for them, we have the money to train our own doctors, we have students wanting to train. It’s just cheaper for us to forget about the training and recruit doctors from countries with a greater need than ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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