RootsBooster Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 No because religion is seperate from science, this is what I'm saying.. Atheist is deemed a religion.. Yes?? .. It's a belief that you don't believe in god, the answer is NOT a lack of belief in god, its a belief that they isn't a god. Well science and religion are totally seperate things I am not deemed to be call an atheist as atheist is part of religion, not science, and science is what I'm following so I'm an agnostic only No, are mistaken and confused. Atheism is not a religion and it is not "a belief that you don't believe in God". The only criteria required for atheism is that you lack belief in any gods. You can remain open minded that one or more gods MAY exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anywebsite Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I think you need to study more. Most agnostics are atheist & most atheists are agnostic, at least the ones I've talked to. They aren't alternatives to each other, one describes lack of knowledge, the other describes lack of belief. A gnostic atheist is somebody who believes there is proof that no god exists, an agnostic atheist is somebody who believes there is no proof that a god exists. This diagram illustrates it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Theological_positions.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloomdido Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 It's simple to me. If I was you I would carefully study agnosticism. It's nothing to do with atheist as agnosticism is nothing to do with religion. You can't be a agnostic atheist, only one or the other as atheist means not to believe and agnostic means because you don't have a definite answer, you don't know so in theory if you don't know then you can't answer the question is they a god? Without giving evidence to it.. If I were you and you were me, you would be able to understand what I had just written even if you didn't agree with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drone Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 And that is deemed agnosticism as you remain open minded because you don't know the answer.. ....this is to rootsbooster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 But only if you're good at mental gymnastics, compartmentalising, and not taking the claims in religious books quite so literally. You're assuming that peoples' individual faiths are based on scripture. A lot of people just simply believe in a "higher being" God, which has no set definition as such. Science doesn't contradict something if it is yet to be defined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewheeldave Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Which is wrong. Atheism is not holding a belief in that God exists, which is different from holding a belief that he doesn't exist. Actually, Drones right. Or rather, you both are, depending on which of the two definitions commonly used in our dictionaries you go for. Some define it as a 'lack of belief'- others as 'a belief that God does not exist': clearly very different definitions, but, as I said, both are represented in current English dictionaries. The 2nd definition is what the majority of the non-specialist population tend to go for, whereas the 'rationalist' movement strongly disaprove of the 2nd and much prefer the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drone Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Hehe.. I now know why your saying I'm an agnostic atheist because that is what it says on wiki..i just looked well That is misleading as that is looking from a religious view. I'm not religious because I don't know the answer to is they a god and so that makes me just agnostic.. Wiki is misleading there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drone Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Actually, Drones right. Or rather, you both are, depending on which of the two definitions commonly used in our dictionaries you go for. Some define it as a 'lack of belief'- others as 'a belief that God does not exist': clearly very different definitions, but, as I said, both are represented in current English dictionaries. The 2nd definition is what the majority of the non-specialist population tend to go for, whereas the 'rationalist' movement strongly disaprove of the 2nd and much prefer the first. I was an atheist this morning dave but after reading this topic and then actually looking into it properly, I'm now an agnostic. . Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drone Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 But what it does show is that religion does force things on you despite them saying it doesnt, with them saying I'm an agnostic atheist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drone Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 No your wrong on them all apart from one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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