Mecky Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 They cannot say anything because they know as well as everyone else that the previous two times a franchise has had to be cancelled early (GNER and NEEC) the contracts were let under a Labour led DfT (or SRA before then,) and when West Coast and Cross Country (both Virgin) were put onto a management contract status as obligations couldn't be met it was as a direct result of Railtrack incompetence, under Labours watch. Nobody mention politics until ash, people are only bothered how much their fairs will increase and and how much degrading of the service there will be. The same moaning that has happened under any administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bypassblade Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 The majority of first trains are "sheds on wheels" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 The majority of first trains are "sheds on wheels" Only ever been on one type to be honest, the Class 185 which runs on the TPE route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dosxuk Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 The majority of first trains are "sheds on wheels" However, the trains aren't changing. Only tilting trains are permitted to run along the line, and all are currently with Virgin. Contrary to public belief / Virgin's PR department, Virgin don't own any of thier trains, didn't design them, and only got to decide details (like paint colour, seat layouts and carpets). The plan to put 140MPH tilting trains on the line was well in place before Virgin took over. Incidentally First do own some of thier own trains, 5 of arguably the best trains ever built - the HST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvp82 Posted August 17, 2012 Author Share Posted August 17, 2012 I'm no fan of SRB, his airline is style over substance and him playing the poor little hard done by victim if as he would have you believe the big bad bully that is British Airways so much as sneezed in Virgin Atlantic's direction, did come across as childish. But I did actually like the service Virgin Trains offered between Manchester and Euston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*_ash_* Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Nobody mention politics until ash, people are only bothered how much their fairs will increase and and how much degrading of the service there will be. The same moaning that has happened under any administration. Well, a multi-billion pound deal (which will undoubtedly collapse before it is complete) is juuuuust a little bit to do with politics, don't you think? Nobody mention politics until ash, people are only bothered how much their fairs will increase and and how much degrading of the service there will be. The same moaning that has happened under any administration. I think in general you are right here. But in the post, I said the usual suspects (meaning posters on this forum) as you already knew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*_ash_* Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I still remember Blair a year or two before he was first elected standing in front of conference and saying "We will renationalise the railways". I think that renationalising, or bailing out failed company = not much difference. Both involve subsidising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Well, a multi-billion pound deal (which will undoubtedly collapse before it is complete) is juuuuust a little bit to do with politics, don't you think? I think in general you are right here. But in the post, I said the usual suspects (meaning posters on this forum) as you already knew You meant me, but I am many many lightyears in front of you and always will be, so stop trying to troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*_ash_* Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 You meant me, but I am many many lightyears in front of you and always will be, so stop trying to troll. If you think I meant you personally in my first post, then the only thing that is light years ahead of me is your paranoia (or self-praise). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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