RootsBooster Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 MODS: Please don't bury this in with one of the megathreads, it will likely go unseen by those who may contribute! Yes, mediums as in, the ones who claim to speak to the dead. If you need to get the "size" jokes out of your system, do so now . There's believers and non-believers. Some of the believers also accept that there are fakes. Let's accept for a moment that some mediums MAY be genuine, and that those of us taking part in this thread were members of an organisation similar to the "guilds" of builders and craftsmen etc, but for mediums. My question is this, can we come up with a test or exam for mediums to take which would prove them genuine (please don't reply "No, cuz their all fake innit!") ? The point of such a test would be to validate/authenticate the medium for business purposes. The details of the test would have to be agreed upon by both sides. As a start, from my own point of view, the test must be repeatable and it must be within a location that the medium has had no access to be able to tamper with anything. EDIT: The test would not be compulsory, just voluntary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddybare Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Ducking stool. It worked for witches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 Ducking stool. It worked for witches. It didn't though did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Given that mediums obtain their information from and about their subjects using various forms of cold and hot reading, eliminating as far as possible those methods would be the way forward: no verbal or non-verbal communication, feedback or other cues to subject status between medium, subject and test staff, and of course, no prior knowledge of, or contact of any kind, between the test subject and the medium before the test. Something like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddybare Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 It didn't though did it. Why didn't it? There aren't any around nowadays, if the same happened with conmen erm mediums, wouldn't that be a successful result? I'd like to take this opportunity to apply for the job of lever puller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 I don't think it can be proved satisfactorally. Or indeed, is meant to be. I do think it occurs, but not to order. That is why I'm always a bit dubious of people making a living from it. If it's just 'not happening' in front of a paying public, what can they do but cheat? It's one of those things that can't be measured or probed which is why science has such difficulty with it. There is a school of thought that says that when something is watched, it changes. I think this is probably a good example of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddybare Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 I don't think it can be proved satisfactorally. Or indeed, is meant to be. I do think it occurs, but not to order. That is why I'm always a bit dubious of people making a living from it. If it's just 'not happening' in front of a paying public, what can they do but cheat? It's one of those things that can't be measured or probed which is why science has such difficulty with it. There is a school of thought that says that when something is watched, it changes. I think this is probably a good example of that. Science has difficulty explaining mediums? Really? Which particular sector of science would that be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien52 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Science has difficulty explaining mediums? Really? Which particular sector of science would that be? Homeopathy.It's just a drop in the ocean to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 I don't think it can be proved satisfactorally. Or indeed, is meant to be. If it is a genuine power or skill, it will be provable I do think it occurs, but not to order. What makes you think this though? It's one of those things that can't be measured or probed which is why science has such difficulty with it. It doesn't need to be measured or probed, it just has to pass a set test which both sides have agreed on There is a school of thought that says that when something is watched, it changes. I think this is probably a good example of that. In which case, wouldn't a normal customer ruin things for them by watching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eckolad Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Well i can think of a very simple one for physics You ring them up and if they really are physic then they will know exactly who is calling with out the need for caller display! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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