AWOL Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 imo the only way this country would move forward would be to remove the monarchy, and the commonwealth realm altogether tbh. Privilege at all levels should be removed by any means available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Privilege at all levels should be removed by any means available. Even earned priviledge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWOL Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Even earned priviledge? NO. Just inherited privilege. What you earn actually is not privilege at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Ok, let's start by saying this.. Ok, more than 1/3 of the national debt, not quite 1/2, but damned near... The number 1 richest has a not too shabby £12.7 Billion balance on his bank account, this is after having 27% (£4.8bn) wiped off last year.. Now, think about it this way, and this is just a hypothetical situation/idea, but... Imagine if (like I said on my other thread) the top 1000, or even top 700 paid 1/2 thier wealth, back into the country, this would ease off the national debt, and help to (of not do it) bring us out of recession.. the best method I could think of for this, would be not to just hand over the money bit by bit to the public, and not to let the government take control of it, but for some third party to calculate how much is owed by the public and businesses to the top (say 25?) credit companies.. Then, working from most owed, to least owed, split the money, on a percentage based calculation. (pay off the same percent of debt from each company, the one with most owed receives most money, yes, but it balances out across the board) Then, each company (again, overseen by the third party) do the same with their customers, using the exact same method.. This would then mean that they could give their current customers the choice of.... A) pay off your debt earlier by keeping the same payment, but there's less to pay.. or B) pay less per month, over the same remaining term.. So, the discussion on this thread would be, do you think this method would work? or do you have any other ideas/methods for the same outcome, perhaps a better idea? NOT wether or not the rich would actually do this... Economic growth isn’t a good measure of the prosperity of people. Recession doesn’t make everyone less well off and growth doesn’t make everyone better off. Growth as made some people poorer whilst recession will make some people better off. We had economic growth over the past decade which made many people much worse off and more indebted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saunaman Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Mods , am I allowed to quote from the Star ? Because the writer reflects my opinions but does it far more eloquently . "We are ripped off wholesale , retail and any other way possible the tax-dodging class can think of . Businesses that make the rich mega-rich and the rest of us poorer , petrol , gas , electricity , banks , insurance companies , water companies , bus companies and railway companies . The government supports them all in their efforts to become multi-millionaires at the expense of the rest of us . Lots of the mega-profoits made are not taxed : they go straight to join the billions in the tax havens across the world . What does the government do ? It turns 2 blind eyes" ..... to be continued Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saunaman Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 They would much rather recoup the billions in lost revenue by sacking nurses , firemen , policemen , and all manner of workers in government offices and departments, regardless of the consequences to the country or the people . Money locked up in tax havens that does not get into circulation via the government knocks the economy . The drastic cut in income suffered by those sacked knocks the economy ." And now (my words) they are trying to kill off the weakest in society , whilst sitting counting their worthless money in the Caymans - are we dealing with human beings here or total sadists ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Indeed the rich can bring us out of recession. All we have to do is not tax them too much, be nice to them and the wealth will soon trickle down.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingray-man Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Privilege at all levels should be removed by any means available. agree with you completely, But the problem is would the people survive if we did remove the privileged ?, Because the people in this country are not used to thinking for themselves and just doing what they are told, hence why a monarchy has ruled this country for so long. To remove the privileged would need a revolution and that would NOT be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bailey Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 So you want all those hard working people whos done well for themself to give they hard earn money to the low class scrubbles If they started paying tax the same as the low class scrubbles as you call them the country would immediately feel the benefit but they won't because due to our flawed tax system they can send it out of the country which is something Joe Public can't do with his PAYE tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bailey Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 , hence why a monarchy has ruled this country for so long. It is hundreds of years since our monarchy actualy ruled this country, they are just a fihgure head and nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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