Cyclone Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Currently SCC has to re-house some people because their homes have become unsuitable for their needs. So for example someone might have had a mental health crisis and needs to move away from an area with a lot of social problems; crime, anti-social behaviour, racism and so forth. For some of the more fragile people, being in a quieter neighbourhood is really essential. If we sell off everything in Crookes, Totley, Walkley, etc. then where will we house them? There are also people who get a lot of support from people who live in a particular area, often saving social services thousands of pounds a year that would otherwise have to be spent to support them. We need the flexibility to be able to house them near that support. The suggestion isn't to sell off all the council housing in any one area, it's to sell off individual properties which are worth substantially more than the average. That certainly wouldn't include all the properties in Walkley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FACEBOOK Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 It's a wonderful idea to sell off the properties in the better areas to build more housing in the less desirable cheaper areas. The numbers work and it's a win for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riche Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Scum breed like rabbits and these rabbits need to be housed and it starts all over again. I work, I have one child, I have paid for my nice house in Crosspool. I am off the cross originaly and moved away for my son's schooling. His mates are cool kids, no crime nothing harder than a bottle of bear and a blunt. Free housing builds dependancy on the whelfare state. Get real and drag yourself off the floor. I started in a £25 k terrace and now own a £250k house. Were there is a will. I is only a joiner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnvqsos Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Scum breed like rabbits and these rabbits need to be housed and it starts all over again. I work, I have one child, I have paid for my nice house in Crosspool. I am off the cross originaly and moved away for my son's schooling. His mates are cool kids, no crime nothing harder than a bottle of bear and a blunt. Free housing builds dependancy on the whelfare state. Get real and drag yourself off the floor. I started in a £25 k terrace and now own a £250k house. Were there is a will. I is only a joiner. Well given your analysis of cultural deprivation we were not anticipating a Doctor of Sociology.Be careful you will have Harry Enfield satirising you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Scum breed like rabbits and these rabbits need to be housed and it starts all over again. I work, I have one child, I have paid for my nice house in Crosspool. I am off the cross originaly and moved away for my son's schooling. His mates are cool kids, no crime nothing harder than a bottle of bear and a blunt. Free housing builds dependancy on the whelfare state. Get real and drag yourself off the floor. I started in a £25 k terrace and now own a £250k house. Were there is a will. I is only a joiner. I've hightlighted the relevant bits for you ... Me Me Me! Fee housing? If everyone dragged themselves up off the floor, wouldn't the floor be raised? Isn't Crosspool already becoming the new floor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pottedplant Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I've hightlighted the relevant bits for you ... Me Me Me! Fee housing? If everyone dragged themselves up off the floor, wouldn't the floor be raised? Isn't Crosspool already becoming the new floor? Well seemingly yes as there are ex cross joiners living there now ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert_Baehr Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 ... His mates are cool kids, no crime nothing harder than a bottle of bear and a blunt... I'm not so sure I approve of that ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Prime Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 It's an open discussion, I'm free to explain what I think he meant to someone who's trying desperately to take offence. If you choose not to accept that explanation then I suppose we'll just have to carry on won't we, but please stop banging on about it in that case. It's funny but I don't see the word moderator after your name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddycoffee Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 What happened to the land after the houses had been demolished? Were more houses built for social housing or was the land sold off to private developers? Or has the land just been left with nothing actually happening with it or as it, has as happened in some areas, now been turned into a car park? I think that the problem in sheffield is that national government promised to make available grants for new housing if the old council housing was cleared. However this kind of work takes years and by the time the housing was cleared the government had changed and the funding was no longer available. Hence we have large swathes of Parson Cross and Manor with overgrown grass where hundreds of houses used to be, while at the same time there is a massive waiting list for houses. This proposed scheme could be a way of getting some of these problems sorted out and some new houses built, however, to improve matters, the new housing built in the traditional council house areas must be of extremely high quality with good security and spacious rooms. If they just built modern sparrow's barracks that would be too small to swing a cat in, then a great opportunity would be lost to greaty improve the social housing. A good example is Arkwright town over in Chesterfield area. They moved a whole community from shabby and old terraces which suffered from mining gas, to a nearby modern and far more attractive and desirable housing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Prime Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 You can't flip an argument like that; it's nonsensical. Everyone knows I'm right even though people don't like to admit or just refuse point blank to admit it. Nobody has tried to counter what I said in post 33 because they know I am right and they also know I'll have more than one response waiting if they do. The arrogance of the radical left AKA hard left. You were trounced by the Telegraph and ES article and no the ES is not a right wing reactionary paper though by your standards it probably is. It seems that in your world anything beyond the Socialist Worker is reactionary. You also seem to have some romanticised student view of the humble poor, like Bob Cratchitt and his family. I'd like to see you living next door to the scum from the ES article and see how you feel after a few months. I'd also like you to give us your definition of social cleansing. You make it sound like Bosnia. At the end of the day, families who rely totally or mainly on the taxpayer are lucky to be given free housing, particularly in areas many hard working, struggling people can never afford. How is this right? The working poor are one thing but those households of the Jeremy Kyle variety where nobody works, I have no sympathy for at all. What leftists like you will never understand is that the moderate majority of the UK work hard and want to see the fruits of their labours reflected in their home and street. They want to live amongst similar people. They do not want to see people who don't work reap the same rewards. That does not make such people right wing 'sheeple' either. In most people's opinions, those who's entire lives are paid for by the taxpayer are not really suffering victims worthy of sympathy. It is enough they are paid for, people don't actually want them living nearby. What's wrong with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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