Grandad.Malky Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Everyone is at least middleclass aren't they if their not homeless oh dear and they want to bring the voting age down to 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricgem2002 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I didn't say they should be given priority, but a system that rewards a family that doesn't work with three free houses, whilst keeping houses out of the reach of many workers, is worthy discussion and complaint. 8 bedrooms, for 3 adults and two children isn't right when other people ar strugling to find an house. so should they be out on the streets? should they be in a hotel costing us the taxpayer even more ? should all unemployed people (regardless of circumstances) not be given social housing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 so should they be out on the streets? should they be in a hotel costing us the taxpayer even more ? should all unemployed people (regardless of circumstances) not be given social housing ? No they should be living in one tax funded house until they can afford to pay for more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthenekred Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 No they should be living in one tax funded house until they can afford to pay for more. But their not one family, they're 3 separate families. A job or income doesn't define you as a family, your relationship and children do. Are you suggesting if I dont have a brother or sister I should be means tested on the status of a relative twice removed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Only if you could afford a sizeable deposit and could take on a larger mortgage. Buying a council house is for many people the only way to afford to buy a house. And I still don't believe you when you say you would rather pay rent for the rest of your life than own if within a 15/20 year (or less) period. Nobody ever said that though, you just made it up as the only possible alternative to buying a council house at a discount. The vast majority of people don't have that option, they have to save a deposit and they have to buy a house privately. Social housing is supposed to be a safety net, not a savings scheme and easy route to owning a house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 You can’t buy class, if I won the Euro millions tonight I would still be working class and proud of it ……. My dad and granddad would turn in their graves if I suddenly jumped ship because I came into a bob or two. Indeed, it's down to a whole bunch of things of which income is only one, but the post I was responding to seemed to think that income was the most important one and had set it at a very high level. The examples I chose were both highly educated (degree level or beyond), professional and non manual. I chose them deliberately, IMO those occupations epitomise middle class, but they would both fall short of the income level that was being suggested as required to be middle class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pottedplant Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 No they should be living in one tax funded house until they can afford to pay for more. Have you told your friend this ? what was their view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 But their not one family, they're 3 separate families. A job or income doesn't define you as a family, your relationship and children do. Are you suggesting if I dont have a brother or sister I should be means tested on the status of a relative twice removed? How are they not one family? Grandmother - Daughter - Granddaughter - Daughter - Granddaughter Looks like 1 family to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricgem2002 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 No they should be living in one tax funded house until they can afford to pay for more. why unless you are now suggesting that all unemployed people should move back in with their parents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 why unless you are now suggesting that all unemployed people should move back in with their parents If their parents house has room, and they are living as single parents then that sounds entirely reasonable, given the shortage of housing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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