Mecky Posted August 28, 2012 Author Share Posted August 28, 2012 And won't be changing when First take over. It will be interesting to see which rolling stock First use and how much their increase prices to pay for their bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dosxuk Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 It will be interesting to see which rolling stock First use and how much their increase prices to pay for their bid. They will be using exactly the same Pendolinos and Voyagers as currently used by Virgin. The 11 additional new trains are rumoured to be additional Pendolinos, and were offered to all the bidders for the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnvqsos Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Typical Branson-loses the contest and then uses money to conduct a legal challenge.He is a cross between Tony Blair and Rick Wakeman.Perhaps he should resume his links with hot air(balloons) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Sampson Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I do not understand what grounds the action is being brought over? The franchising system is an established process and Virgin were happy to play the game when they thought they would win. Their PR seeking waffle is becomig irritating. Although not as irritating as the thoroughly irksome Maria Eagle jumping on the red and white bandwagon and saying that the process should be looked at and debated in Parliament. What on earth MPs have to do with the awarding of franchises on the railway is anyones guess. First have won the bid, they have promised to find ways to increase custom from the paltry 35% capacity which is what the trains currently run at on average and I for one expect them to achieve it. Toot toot and farewell Beardo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted August 28, 2012 Author Share Posted August 28, 2012 I do not understand what grounds the action is being brought over? The franchising system is an established process and Virgin were happy to play the game when they thought they would win. Their PR seeking waffle is becomig irritating. Although not as irritating as the thoroughly irksome Maria Eagle jumping on the red and white bandwagon and saying that the process should be looked at and debated in Parliament. What on earth MPs have to do with the awarding of franchises on the railway is anyones guess. First have won the bid, they have promised to find ways to increase custom from the paltry 35% capacity which is what the trains currently run at on average and I for one expect them to achieve it. Toot toot and farewell Beardo Me either, Branson obviously feels he's been hard done by by getting the boot but I think there's a bit more to it than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Sampson Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 All i can see about it is Branson saying that the deal will collapse and leave passengers and taxpayers up the swanny. But that is not grounds fkr a legal challenge, assessing deliverability is part of the awarding process and clearly the DfT thinks it is deliverable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saunaman Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I used to respect him , but no sympathy now for Beardy , given that his next venture is to "cherry-pick" those parts of the NHS that produce most profit , ie the private healthcare market . Is nothing beyond bounds in the bid to make money ? Would any other failed bidder have access to politicians to state their case ? Virgin as a brand - all style and no substance ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pb1977 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Sour grapes make bad whine, just SRB blowing more hot air about something detrimental to his own self intrest and as always it's thinly disguised as him been the people's champion. Take his endless rants about IAG's recent purchase of BMI, nothing but moan moan moan, but of course Virgin Atlantic where never in a position to buy BMI themselves. A case of if we can't buy them, then we don't want anyone else to buy them either. Branson the people's champion, nah more like a bad loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMoon Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I reckon a few of you have been following the West Coast Mainline saga and the decision to not award the franchise to Virgin Trains. Now there's a new twist. So what do you people think? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19402133 West Coast Mainline say they can increase passenger numbers by ten per cent every year. All the experts that I have heard say this is impossible. Tories say they have done the 'sums' and they all add up. But as everything the Tories have 'added up' in the last two years have been wrong these are more than likely to be wrong as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telman Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 All that cosying up to"call me dave" did'nt work . Watch him suck up to new labour soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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