MrSmith Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Exactly. In the old 'O' Level system the A-C at 'O' level was a pass. Grade 1 at CSE was regarded as equivalent to an 'O' level pass at grade A-C as well. And was taken seriously by employers too. In practical terms it never really was a two tier system anyway. Many pupils were dual-entered for 'O' level and CSE exams in a subject. Even if they did CSEs there was always the chance of gaining a Grade 1. I think the current system is worse and more dangerous. We still have students split into different streams according to ability. They still have predicted grades according to levels of ability. We now have a rubbish situation where exam boards dumb down papers to win business, allowing less able students to get pumped-up grades. In my day exam boards used to sell themselves by setting tougher papers, e.g. Oxford maths 'O' level used to have a strong selling point of being tough, e.g. versus the standard for AEB maths 'O' level. The multi-tier system still exists, probably worse than it ever was, but much more hidden. The system is a shambles. The Tories took apart something that worked. Labour were happy to run with the replacement and misuse the system for political gain. LibDems seem to think everything is rosy in the garden. All the parties are a shower of crap when it comes to education. They should all keep away from it because they don't know what they're doing. Yes that came as a bit of a shock to us, we knew our daughter was in set one for maths and English but the work she was doing in maths just didn’t look hard enough, she would come home and tell us she was bored and spent more time helping the other kids in her class. When we contacted the school they told us that she was in set one bottom tear and explained that they had to be in the same tear for Maths and English, apparently it was her English that dropped her to the bottom tear, after our insistence they looked at her again and moved her to set one top tear for both subjects, she started to enjoy maths but struggled a little in English, with some extra effort and home study she ended up with an A in maths and B in English, if we hadn’t noticed, all she could have achieved was C in both subjects because the bottom tear took an easier exam. CSE 1 was equivalent to an o-level C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Yes that came as a bit of a shock to us, we knew our daughter was in set one for maths and English but the work she was doing in maths just didn’t look hard enough, she would come home and tell us she was bored and spent more time helping the other kids in her class. When we contacted the school they told us that she was in set one bottom tear and explained that they had to be in the same tear for Maths and English, apparently it was her English that dropped her to the bottom tear, after our insistence they looked at her again and moved her to set one top tear for both subjects, she started to enjoy maths but struggled a little in English, with some extra effort and home study she ended up with an A in maths and B in English, if we hadn’t noticed, all she could have achieved was C in both subjects because the bottom tear took an easier exam. CSE 1 was equivalent to an o-level C I could weep at the standard of some people's education Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricgem2002 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 I could weep at the standard of some people's education you obviously havent read his signature have you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 you obviously havent read his signature have you In the world of MrSmith that's generally an excuse for being dim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricgem2002 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 In the world of MrSmith that's generally an excuse for being dim. and in the world of mr bf whats yours :hihi: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 and in the world of mr bf whats yours :hihi: A 20 watt bulb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnvqsos Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 I could weep at the standard of some people's education I would try to mend the tears or at least dry them-nice spot:hihi: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricgem2002 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 And their ineptness is evident in many SF posts,don't you agree? i agree especially with most of yours :hihi: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnvqsos Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 i agree especially with most of yours :hihi: Have you been reading your Oscar Wilde guide to a well-rounded life,put-downs and prison diets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMaquis Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 you obviously havent read his signature have you Yes he has. It says "please feel free to point my errors out." You obviously havent read his signature have you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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