tinfoilhat Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I wonder how long it will be before someone comes along and provides a link to a similar case involving Christians?..... I thought, when I saw this thread, not another Ant-Muslim debate, it does get tedious. But then when you think about it, Muslims, on the whole, are a controversial group who are involved in most of the major conflicts around the world. Its not the people so much. They are badly influenced by the potty Koran and dubious religious leaders... In fairness, child rape and molestation is the Christian (particularly catholic) "vice" when it comes things religious leaders shouldn't do. But at least the pope doesn't try and cover it up. Well not anymore. This chap the thread is about is an awful man who won't get what's coming to him in that basket case of a country. Hopefully he'll get it in the next life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeaFan Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Blasphemy laws are always used to control a population and discourage independent thought. It's depressing to see how easily some people in Islamabad have allowed themselves to go along what was so obviously a convenient way to drive out a group of people who don't subscribe to the same flavour of mumbo-jumbo as this man. I hope he's got something nasty coming his way, but I'm not sure I'll hold my breath. Mind you, some of the attitudes towards Muslims as a whole that you get on here and elsewhere on the web seem to be as mindlessly hate-filled as this man's views on Christians. It's all very well to lay into him, but if we're going to do that we should make sure our views aren't essentially the same as his, just directed at a different group of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj.scuba Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Mind you, some of the attitudes towards Muslims as a whole that you get on here and elsewhere on the web seem to be as mindlessly hate-filled as this man's views on Christians. It's all very well to lay into him, but if we're going to do that we should make sure our views aren't essentially the same as his, just directed at a different group of people. This Imam could have got a young disabled girl executed through his own supremacist religious ideology. There is no moral equivalence between what he did, and criticising him and his ideology. It's like saying people who criticise Nazism are as bad as Hitler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeaFan Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 This Imam could have got a young disabled girl executed through his own supremacist religious ideology. There is no moral equivalence between what he did, and criticising him and his ideology. It's like saying people who criticise Nazism are as bad as Hitler. No, that's not what I said, obviously. I said some peoples' attitudes were doubtless similar to his, just replacing 'Christians' with 'Muslims'. I didn't say that they carried out similar actions (which you knew) but if people think the same as him, how long before they start behaving like him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mort Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 To make it clear - off topic posts have been removed, bickering has been removed, racism has been removed and posts quoting same has been removed. If you don't like it go to the helpdesk and complain there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksandr Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 so one cleric represents the whole religion?It's not just one though, is it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksandr Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 they are still human and capable of independent thought and interpretation.And your evidence for that is what, exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksandr Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 No, that's not what I said, obviously. I said some peoples' attitudes were doubtless similar to his, just replacing 'Christians' with 'Muslims'. I didn't say that they carried out similar actions (which you knew) but if people think the same as him, how long before they start behaving like him?And middle-eastern countries that have a zero or near zero Christian or Jewish population have achieved that how, exactly? Asking them politely to leave perhaps? I think not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 And middle-eastern countries that have a zero or near zero Christian or Jewish population have achieved that how, exactly? Asking them politely to leave perhaps? I think not! Are you claiming mass killings/attempted genocide then? Better start naming names... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksandr Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Are you claiming mass killings/attempted genocide then? Better start naming names...I know an Armenian survivor. I can put you in touch. It would be nice to see you squirm as he explained the situation to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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